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Prove $L$, $M$, $N$ are collinear



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Proving a triangle is isoceles given two points on the sidesBisector of angle formed at the orthocentre passes through the circumcentreProve that L,M,N are collinear.Are lines which pass respectively through vertices $A,B,C$ and incenter, circumcenter and orthocenter of $Delta ABC$ concurrent?Collinearity of points in a projective settingWhy are auxiliary lines valid in geometric proofs?Finding the 'three points'Circumcenter of $Delta ABC$ is the centroid of the antipedal triangle of symmedian pointA conjecture related to any triangleShow that three point $G,H,G_1$ are collinear.










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$G$ is the centroid of triangle $ABC$; $AG$ is produced to $X$ such that $GX=AC$, if we draw parallels through $X$ to $CA$, $AB$, $BC$ meeting $BC$, $CA$, $AB$ at $L$, $M$, $N$ respectively, prove that $L$, $M$, $N$ are collinear.




I have tried using Menelaus theorem and thus tried to multiply the corresponding ratios to obtain $-1$ but I can't do so. I don't seem to understand the relevance of $GX=AC$ and that's probably why I can't solve it. Any hint would be appreciated, thank you.










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    I don't understand what "$AG$ is produced to $X$" means. Did you draw a picture? Can you share it with us?
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    Are you sure that $GX = AC$? I've calculated that you need $GX=AG$ for this theorem to be true.
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    Could you provide a picture??
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    @Matteo "Produce" is a slightly old-fashioned term in geometry meaning to extend or lengthen. You can find the definition in Wiktionary.
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    Thanks you guys ,if AG is equal to GX then the problem becomes much easier.I think it was misprint that wasted a week of my time. thanks anyways
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    Mar 28 at 1:18
















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$G$ is the centroid of triangle $ABC$; $AG$ is produced to $X$ such that $GX=AC$, if we draw parallels through $X$ to $CA$, $AB$, $BC$ meeting $BC$, $CA$, $AB$ at $L$, $M$, $N$ respectively, prove that $L$, $M$, $N$ are collinear.




I have tried using Menelaus theorem and thus tried to multiply the corresponding ratios to obtain $-1$ but I can't do so. I don't seem to understand the relevance of $GX=AC$ and that's probably why I can't solve it. Any hint would be appreciated, thank you.










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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I don't understand what "$AG$ is produced to $X$" means. Did you draw a picture? Can you share it with us?
    $endgroup$
    – Matteo
    Mar 27 at 16:01






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    $begingroup$
    Are you sure that $GX = AC$? I've calculated that you need $GX=AG$ for this theorem to be true.
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    – Adam Latosiński
    Mar 27 at 16:06










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    Could you provide a picture??
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    – Dr. Mathva
    Mar 27 at 17:37






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    $begingroup$
    @Matteo "Produce" is a slightly old-fashioned term in geometry meaning to extend or lengthen. You can find the definition in Wiktionary.
    $endgroup$
    – FredH
    Mar 27 at 18:46










  • $begingroup$
    Thanks you guys ,if AG is equal to GX then the problem becomes much easier.I think it was misprint that wasted a week of my time. thanks anyways
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    – Stomp
    Mar 28 at 1:18














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$G$ is the centroid of triangle $ABC$; $AG$ is produced to $X$ such that $GX=AC$, if we draw parallels through $X$ to $CA$, $AB$, $BC$ meeting $BC$, $CA$, $AB$ at $L$, $M$, $N$ respectively, prove that $L$, $M$, $N$ are collinear.




I have tried using Menelaus theorem and thus tried to multiply the corresponding ratios to obtain $-1$ but I can't do so. I don't seem to understand the relevance of $GX=AC$ and that's probably why I can't solve it. Any hint would be appreciated, thank you.










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$G$ is the centroid of triangle $ABC$; $AG$ is produced to $X$ such that $GX=AC$, if we draw parallels through $X$ to $CA$, $AB$, $BC$ meeting $BC$, $CA$, $AB$ at $L$, $M$, $N$ respectively, prove that $L$, $M$, $N$ are collinear.




I have tried using Menelaus theorem and thus tried to multiply the corresponding ratios to obtain $-1$ but I can't do so. I don't seem to understand the relevance of $GX=AC$ and that's probably why I can't solve it. Any hint would be appreciated, thank you.







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    I don't understand what "$AG$ is produced to $X$" means. Did you draw a picture? Can you share it with us?
    $endgroup$
    – Matteo
    Mar 27 at 16:01






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    $begingroup$
    Are you sure that $GX = AC$? I've calculated that you need $GX=AG$ for this theorem to be true.
    $endgroup$
    – Adam Latosiński
    Mar 27 at 16:06










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    Could you provide a picture??
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    – Dr. Mathva
    Mar 27 at 17:37






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    $begingroup$
    @Matteo "Produce" is a slightly old-fashioned term in geometry meaning to extend or lengthen. You can find the definition in Wiktionary.
    $endgroup$
    – FredH
    Mar 27 at 18:46










  • $begingroup$
    Thanks you guys ,if AG is equal to GX then the problem becomes much easier.I think it was misprint that wasted a week of my time. thanks anyways
    $endgroup$
    – Stomp
    Mar 28 at 1:18













  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I don't understand what "$AG$ is produced to $X$" means. Did you draw a picture? Can you share it with us?
    $endgroup$
    – Matteo
    Mar 27 at 16:01






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Are you sure that $GX = AC$? I've calculated that you need $GX=AG$ for this theorem to be true.
    $endgroup$
    – Adam Latosiński
    Mar 27 at 16:06










  • $begingroup$
    Could you provide a picture??
    $endgroup$
    – Dr. Mathva
    Mar 27 at 17:37






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    @Matteo "Produce" is a slightly old-fashioned term in geometry meaning to extend or lengthen. You can find the definition in Wiktionary.
    $endgroup$
    – FredH
    Mar 27 at 18:46










  • $begingroup$
    Thanks you guys ,if AG is equal to GX then the problem becomes much easier.I think it was misprint that wasted a week of my time. thanks anyways
    $endgroup$
    – Stomp
    Mar 28 at 1:18








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I don't understand what "$AG$ is produced to $X$" means. Did you draw a picture? Can you share it with us?
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– Matteo
Mar 27 at 16:01




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I don't understand what "$AG$ is produced to $X$" means. Did you draw a picture? Can you share it with us?
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– Matteo
Mar 27 at 16:01




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Are you sure that $GX = AC$? I've calculated that you need $GX=AG$ for this theorem to be true.
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– Adam Latosiński
Mar 27 at 16:06




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Are you sure that $GX = AC$? I've calculated that you need $GX=AG$ for this theorem to be true.
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– Adam Latosiński
Mar 27 at 16:06












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Could you provide a picture??
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– Dr. Mathva
Mar 27 at 17:37




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Mar 27 at 17:37




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@Matteo "Produce" is a slightly old-fashioned term in geometry meaning to extend or lengthen. You can find the definition in Wiktionary.
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– FredH
Mar 27 at 18:46




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@Matteo "Produce" is a slightly old-fashioned term in geometry meaning to extend or lengthen. You can find the definition in Wiktionary.
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– FredH
Mar 27 at 18:46












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Thanks you guys ,if AG is equal to GX then the problem becomes much easier.I think it was misprint that wasted a week of my time. thanks anyways
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– Stomp
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Thanks you guys ,if AG is equal to GX then the problem becomes much easier.I think it was misprint that wasted a week of my time. thanks anyways
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I can prove that you'd need $X$ such that $|GX| = |AG|$ using vector algebra.



Let us describe the points of the plane using vectors from point A. Then $vecA = vec0$, and $vecB$ and $vecC$ are linearly independent. The centroid $G$ is given by a vector
$$ vecG = frac13(vecA+vecB+vecC) = frac13(vecB+vecC) $$
Point $X$ lies on the line $overlineAG$, which means that
$$ exists lambdainmathbbR : vecX = lambda (vecB+vecC) $$
For point $L$ we have
beginalign big(Lin overlineBCbig) &Rightarrow big(exists alpha_LinmathbbR : vecL = alpha_L vecB + (1-alpha_L) vecC big) \
big(overlineXL parallel overlineAC big) &Rightarrow big(exists beta_LinmathbbR : vecL = vecX + beta_L vecC = lambda vecB + (lambda + beta_L)vecCbig) endalign

since vectors $vecB=vecC$ the only solution for these conditions is
$$ vecL = lambda vecB + (1-lambda)vecC$$
For point $M$ we have
beginalign big(Min overlineACbig) &Rightarrow big(exists alpha_MinmathbbR : vecM = alpha_M vecC big) \
big(overlineXMparallel overlineABbig) &Rightarrow big(exists beta_MinmathbbR : vecM = vecX + beta_M vecB = (lambda + beta_M) vecB + lambda vecCbig) endalign

The only solution for these conditions is
$$ vecM = lambda vecC$$
Finally, for point $N$ we have
beginalign big(Nin overlineABbig) &Rightarrow big(exists alpha_NinmathbbR : vecN = alpha_N vecB big) \
big(overlineXNparallel overlineBCbig) &Rightarrow big(exists beta_NinmathbbR : vecN = vecX + beta_N (vecB-vecC) = (lambda + beta_N) vecB + (lambda-beta_N) vecCbig) endalign

and the solution for these conditions is
$$ vecN = 2lambda vecB$$
Now, if $L$, $M$, $N$ are supposed to be colinear that means that
beginalign existsgammainmathbbR &: (vecL-vecM) = gamma (vecN-vecL) \
existsgammainmathbbR &: lambdavecB+(1-2lambda)vecC = gamma (lambdavecB+(lambda-1)vecC)endalign

This can only be true if $lambda=frac23$, or $lambda=0$. The second option would correspond to $X=A$ and it isn't the case we're interested in. That means that $vecX=frac23(vecB+vecC) = 2vecG$



If you choose any other point $X$ on line $overlineAG$, points $L$, $M$, $N$ won't be colinear.






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I can prove that you'd need $X$ such that $|GX| = |AG|$ using vector algebra.



Let us describe the points of the plane using vectors from point A. Then $vecA = vec0$, and $vecB$ and $vecC$ are linearly independent. The centroid $G$ is given by a vector
$$ vecG = frac13(vecA+vecB+vecC) = frac13(vecB+vecC) $$
Point $X$ lies on the line $overlineAG$, which means that
$$ exists lambdainmathbbR : vecX = lambda (vecB+vecC) $$
For point $L$ we have
beginalign big(Lin overlineBCbig) &Rightarrow big(exists alpha_LinmathbbR : vecL = alpha_L vecB + (1-alpha_L) vecC big) \
big(overlineXL parallel overlineAC big) &Rightarrow big(exists beta_LinmathbbR : vecL = vecX + beta_L vecC = lambda vecB + (lambda + beta_L)vecCbig) endalign

since vectors $vecB=vecC$ the only solution for these conditions is
$$ vecL = lambda vecB + (1-lambda)vecC$$
For point $M$ we have
beginalign big(Min overlineACbig) &Rightarrow big(exists alpha_MinmathbbR : vecM = alpha_M vecC big) \
big(overlineXMparallel overlineABbig) &Rightarrow big(exists beta_MinmathbbR : vecM = vecX + beta_M vecB = (lambda + beta_M) vecB + lambda vecCbig) endalign

The only solution for these conditions is
$$ vecM = lambda vecC$$
Finally, for point $N$ we have
beginalign big(Nin overlineABbig) &Rightarrow big(exists alpha_NinmathbbR : vecN = alpha_N vecB big) \
big(overlineXNparallel overlineBCbig) &Rightarrow big(exists beta_NinmathbbR : vecN = vecX + beta_N (vecB-vecC) = (lambda + beta_N) vecB + (lambda-beta_N) vecCbig) endalign

and the solution for these conditions is
$$ vecN = 2lambda vecB$$
Now, if $L$, $M$, $N$ are supposed to be colinear that means that
beginalign existsgammainmathbbR &: (vecL-vecM) = gamma (vecN-vecL) \
existsgammainmathbbR &: lambdavecB+(1-2lambda)vecC = gamma (lambdavecB+(lambda-1)vecC)endalign

This can only be true if $lambda=frac23$, or $lambda=0$. The second option would correspond to $X=A$ and it isn't the case we're interested in. That means that $vecX=frac23(vecB+vecC) = 2vecG$



If you choose any other point $X$ on line $overlineAG$, points $L$, $M$, $N$ won't be colinear.






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    Thank you, if AG=GX then the problem becomes solvable with similarity.Can't thank you enough for that.
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I can prove that you'd need $X$ such that $|GX| = |AG|$ using vector algebra.



Let us describe the points of the plane using vectors from point A. Then $vecA = vec0$, and $vecB$ and $vecC$ are linearly independent. The centroid $G$ is given by a vector
$$ vecG = frac13(vecA+vecB+vecC) = frac13(vecB+vecC) $$
Point $X$ lies on the line $overlineAG$, which means that
$$ exists lambdainmathbbR : vecX = lambda (vecB+vecC) $$
For point $L$ we have
beginalign big(Lin overlineBCbig) &Rightarrow big(exists alpha_LinmathbbR : vecL = alpha_L vecB + (1-alpha_L) vecC big) \
big(overlineXL parallel overlineAC big) &Rightarrow big(exists beta_LinmathbbR : vecL = vecX + beta_L vecC = lambda vecB + (lambda + beta_L)vecCbig) endalign

since vectors $vecB=vecC$ the only solution for these conditions is
$$ vecL = lambda vecB + (1-lambda)vecC$$
For point $M$ we have
beginalign big(Min overlineACbig) &Rightarrow big(exists alpha_MinmathbbR : vecM = alpha_M vecC big) \
big(overlineXMparallel overlineABbig) &Rightarrow big(exists beta_MinmathbbR : vecM = vecX + beta_M vecB = (lambda + beta_M) vecB + lambda vecCbig) endalign

The only solution for these conditions is
$$ vecM = lambda vecC$$
Finally, for point $N$ we have
beginalign big(Nin overlineABbig) &Rightarrow big(exists alpha_NinmathbbR : vecN = alpha_N vecB big) \
big(overlineXNparallel overlineBCbig) &Rightarrow big(exists beta_NinmathbbR : vecN = vecX + beta_N (vecB-vecC) = (lambda + beta_N) vecB + (lambda-beta_N) vecCbig) endalign

and the solution for these conditions is
$$ vecN = 2lambda vecB$$
Now, if $L$, $M$, $N$ are supposed to be colinear that means that
beginalign existsgammainmathbbR &: (vecL-vecM) = gamma (vecN-vecL) \
existsgammainmathbbR &: lambdavecB+(1-2lambda)vecC = gamma (lambdavecB+(lambda-1)vecC)endalign

This can only be true if $lambda=frac23$, or $lambda=0$. The second option would correspond to $X=A$ and it isn't the case we're interested in. That means that $vecX=frac23(vecB+vecC) = 2vecG$



If you choose any other point $X$ on line $overlineAG$, points $L$, $M$, $N$ won't be colinear.






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    Thank you, if AG=GX then the problem becomes solvable with similarity.Can't thank you enough for that.
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I can prove that you'd need $X$ such that $|GX| = |AG|$ using vector algebra.



Let us describe the points of the plane using vectors from point A. Then $vecA = vec0$, and $vecB$ and $vecC$ are linearly independent. The centroid $G$ is given by a vector
$$ vecG = frac13(vecA+vecB+vecC) = frac13(vecB+vecC) $$
Point $X$ lies on the line $overlineAG$, which means that
$$ exists lambdainmathbbR : vecX = lambda (vecB+vecC) $$
For point $L$ we have
beginalign big(Lin overlineBCbig) &Rightarrow big(exists alpha_LinmathbbR : vecL = alpha_L vecB + (1-alpha_L) vecC big) \
big(overlineXL parallel overlineAC big) &Rightarrow big(exists beta_LinmathbbR : vecL = vecX + beta_L vecC = lambda vecB + (lambda + beta_L)vecCbig) endalign

since vectors $vecB=vecC$ the only solution for these conditions is
$$ vecL = lambda vecB + (1-lambda)vecC$$
For point $M$ we have
beginalign big(Min overlineACbig) &Rightarrow big(exists alpha_MinmathbbR : vecM = alpha_M vecC big) \
big(overlineXMparallel overlineABbig) &Rightarrow big(exists beta_MinmathbbR : vecM = vecX + beta_M vecB = (lambda + beta_M) vecB + lambda vecCbig) endalign

The only solution for these conditions is
$$ vecM = lambda vecC$$
Finally, for point $N$ we have
beginalign big(Nin overlineABbig) &Rightarrow big(exists alpha_NinmathbbR : vecN = alpha_N vecB big) \
big(overlineXNparallel overlineBCbig) &Rightarrow big(exists beta_NinmathbbR : vecN = vecX + beta_N (vecB-vecC) = (lambda + beta_N) vecB + (lambda-beta_N) vecCbig) endalign

and the solution for these conditions is
$$ vecN = 2lambda vecB$$
Now, if $L$, $M$, $N$ are supposed to be colinear that means that
beginalign existsgammainmathbbR &: (vecL-vecM) = gamma (vecN-vecL) \
existsgammainmathbbR &: lambdavecB+(1-2lambda)vecC = gamma (lambdavecB+(lambda-1)vecC)endalign

This can only be true if $lambda=frac23$, or $lambda=0$. The second option would correspond to $X=A$ and it isn't the case we're interested in. That means that $vecX=frac23(vecB+vecC) = 2vecG$



If you choose any other point $X$ on line $overlineAG$, points $L$, $M$, $N$ won't be colinear.






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I can prove that you'd need $X$ such that $|GX| = |AG|$ using vector algebra.



Let us describe the points of the plane using vectors from point A. Then $vecA = vec0$, and $vecB$ and $vecC$ are linearly independent. The centroid $G$ is given by a vector
$$ vecG = frac13(vecA+vecB+vecC) = frac13(vecB+vecC) $$
Point $X$ lies on the line $overlineAG$, which means that
$$ exists lambdainmathbbR : vecX = lambda (vecB+vecC) $$
For point $L$ we have
beginalign big(Lin overlineBCbig) &Rightarrow big(exists alpha_LinmathbbR : vecL = alpha_L vecB + (1-alpha_L) vecC big) \
big(overlineXL parallel overlineAC big) &Rightarrow big(exists beta_LinmathbbR : vecL = vecX + beta_L vecC = lambda vecB + (lambda + beta_L)vecCbig) endalign

since vectors $vecB=vecC$ the only solution for these conditions is
$$ vecL = lambda vecB + (1-lambda)vecC$$
For point $M$ we have
beginalign big(Min overlineACbig) &Rightarrow big(exists alpha_MinmathbbR : vecM = alpha_M vecC big) \
big(overlineXMparallel overlineABbig) &Rightarrow big(exists beta_MinmathbbR : vecM = vecX + beta_M vecB = (lambda + beta_M) vecB + lambda vecCbig) endalign

The only solution for these conditions is
$$ vecM = lambda vecC$$
Finally, for point $N$ we have
beginalign big(Nin overlineABbig) &Rightarrow big(exists alpha_NinmathbbR : vecN = alpha_N vecB big) \
big(overlineXNparallel overlineBCbig) &Rightarrow big(exists beta_NinmathbbR : vecN = vecX + beta_N (vecB-vecC) = (lambda + beta_N) vecB + (lambda-beta_N) vecCbig) endalign

and the solution for these conditions is
$$ vecN = 2lambda vecB$$
Now, if $L$, $M$, $N$ are supposed to be colinear that means that
beginalign existsgammainmathbbR &: (vecL-vecM) = gamma (vecN-vecL) \
existsgammainmathbbR &: lambdavecB+(1-2lambda)vecC = gamma (lambdavecB+(lambda-1)vecC)endalign

This can only be true if $lambda=frac23$, or $lambda=0$. The second option would correspond to $X=A$ and it isn't the case we're interested in. That means that $vecX=frac23(vecB+vecC) = 2vecG$



If you choose any other point $X$ on line $overlineAG$, points $L$, $M$, $N$ won't be colinear.







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    Thank you, if AG=GX then the problem becomes solvable with similarity.Can't thank you enough for that.
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    Thank you, if AG=GX then the problem becomes solvable with similarity.Can't thank you enough for that.
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$begingroup$
Thank you, if AG=GX then the problem becomes solvable with similarity.Can't thank you enough for that.
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– Stomp
Mar 28 at 1:20




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Thank you, if AG=GX then the problem becomes solvable with similarity.Can't thank you enough for that.
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– Stomp
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