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How to Solve a AU=B System when Determinant of A=0



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Let
$$A=beginpmatrix 1 & 5 & -1\ -2 & -10 & 5\ -2 & -10 & -1endpmatrix$$



and
$$B=beginpmatrix 0 \ 15 \ -15endpmatrix.$$



To find a vector $U$ such that $A$ maps $U$ to $B$ then you must solve the system $AU = B$.



Isolating for U yields $U = A^-1B$



However, when attempting to solve the inverse of $A$ produces all $0$'s in the bottom row during matrix inversion algorithm, otherwise known as a determinant of $0$.










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    Avoid meaningless $U=B*(1/A)$ in matrix computations.
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    Write $A^-1b$.
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    Do you know the Moon Penrose invertible?
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Let
$$A=beginpmatrix 1 & 5 & -1\ -2 & -10 & 5\ -2 & -10 & -1endpmatrix$$



and
$$B=beginpmatrix 0 \ 15 \ -15endpmatrix.$$



To find a vector $U$ such that $A$ maps $U$ to $B$ then you must solve the system $AU = B$.



Isolating for U yields $U = A^-1B$



However, when attempting to solve the inverse of $A$ produces all $0$'s in the bottom row during matrix inversion algorithm, otherwise known as a determinant of $0$.










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  • $begingroup$
    Avoid meaningless $U=B*(1/A)$ in matrix computations.
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Mar 20 at 10:50






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Write $A^-1b$.
    $endgroup$
    – Yves Daoust
    Mar 20 at 10:55







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Do you know the Moon Penrose invertible?
    $endgroup$
    – dmtri
    Mar 20 at 10:56






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @dmtri I see your point.
    $endgroup$
    – sawreals2
    Mar 20 at 11:08






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @dmtri Moon Penrose->Moore Penrose
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
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$begingroup$


Let
$$A=beginpmatrix 1 & 5 & -1\ -2 & -10 & 5\ -2 & -10 & -1endpmatrix$$



and
$$B=beginpmatrix 0 \ 15 \ -15endpmatrix.$$



To find a vector $U$ such that $A$ maps $U$ to $B$ then you must solve the system $AU = B$.



Isolating for U yields $U = A^-1B$



However, when attempting to solve the inverse of $A$ produces all $0$'s in the bottom row during matrix inversion algorithm, otherwise known as a determinant of $0$.










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Let
$$A=beginpmatrix 1 & 5 & -1\ -2 & -10 & 5\ -2 & -10 & -1endpmatrix$$



and
$$B=beginpmatrix 0 \ 15 \ -15endpmatrix.$$



To find a vector $U$ such that $A$ maps $U$ to $B$ then you must solve the system $AU = B$.



Isolating for U yields $U = A^-1B$



However, when attempting to solve the inverse of $A$ produces all $0$'s in the bottom row during matrix inversion algorithm, otherwise known as a determinant of $0$.







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  • $begingroup$
    Avoid meaningless $U=B*(1/A)$ in matrix computations.
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Mar 20 at 10:50






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Write $A^-1b$.
    $endgroup$
    – Yves Daoust
    Mar 20 at 10:55







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Do you know the Moon Penrose invertible?
    $endgroup$
    – dmtri
    Mar 20 at 10:56






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @dmtri I see your point.
    $endgroup$
    – sawreals2
    Mar 20 at 11:08






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @dmtri Moon Penrose->Moore Penrose
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Mar 20 at 18:47
















  • $begingroup$
    Avoid meaningless $U=B*(1/A)$ in matrix computations.
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Mar 20 at 10:50






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Write $A^-1b$.
    $endgroup$
    – Yves Daoust
    Mar 20 at 10:55







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Do you know the Moon Penrose invertible?
    $endgroup$
    – dmtri
    Mar 20 at 10:56






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @dmtri I see your point.
    $endgroup$
    – sawreals2
    Mar 20 at 11:08






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @dmtri Moon Penrose->Moore Penrose
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Mar 20 at 18:47















$begingroup$
Avoid meaningless $U=B*(1/A)$ in matrix computations.
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Mar 20 at 10:50




$begingroup$
Avoid meaningless $U=B*(1/A)$ in matrix computations.
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Mar 20 at 10:50




1




1




$begingroup$
Write $A^-1b$.
$endgroup$
– Yves Daoust
Mar 20 at 10:55





$begingroup$
Write $A^-1b$.
$endgroup$
– Yves Daoust
Mar 20 at 10:55





1




1




$begingroup$
Do you know the Moon Penrose invertible?
$endgroup$
– dmtri
Mar 20 at 10:56




$begingroup$
Do you know the Moon Penrose invertible?
$endgroup$
– dmtri
Mar 20 at 10:56




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@dmtri I see your point.
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– sawreals2
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$begingroup$
@dmtri I see your point.
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– sawreals2
Mar 20 at 11:08




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@dmtri Moon Penrose->Moore Penrose
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After Gaussian elimination we get a system in echelon form,



$$beginpmatrix1&5&-1\0&0&3\0&0&0endpmatrixbeginpmatrixx\y\zendpmatrix=beginpmatrix0\15\0endpmatrix.$$



So by the second equation, $z=5$ and by the first $x+5y=5$. This is all you can say.






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    Matrix A reduces to 1,5,00,0,10,0,0 after gaussian elimination.
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    @sawreals2: and what is the right member ?
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    1,0,0 on the right of the equation.
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    @sawreals2: this is wrong.
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Yes, it is true that $det(A)=0$. So $A^-1$ is meaningless. Nevertheless we can solve $Ax=b$ with $b=(0,15,-15)^T$ by, say, $x=(1,4/5,5)$. For this, we write $x=(x_1,x_2,x_3)$ and obtain three linear equations, namely
$$
x_1+5x_2-x_3= - 2x_1 - 10x_2 + 5x_3 - 15= - 2x_1 - 10x_2 - x_3 + 15=0.
$$

If we substitute $x_3$ from the last equation, we obtain $- x_1 - 5x_2 + 5=0$. With $x_1=5-5x_2$ all equations are satisfied.






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The most general solution of a square linear system $AX=B$ can be written



$$X=X_0+X_1$$



where :



  • 1) $X_0$ is a particular solution of system $AX=B$.


  • 2) $X_1$ is the general solution of the associated homogeneous system $AX=0$ (in more abstract terms : the generic element of the kernel of $A$).


In the case at hand,



1) has solution (see explanations below):
$$X_0=beginpmatrix5\0\5endpmatrix.$$



2) has solution
$$X_1=kbeginpmatrix-5\1\0endpmatrix textfor any real k.$$



Thus the general solution is



$$X_0+X_1=beginpmatrix5-5k\k\5endpmatrix textfor any real k.$$



Remark : this formulation "particular solution of... + general solution of ..." is the same for linear differential equations.




Explanation for (1) : There are in fact many solutions ; here is a way to obtain one :



In system



$$begincasesx&+&5y&-&z&=&0& (a)\-2x&-&10y&+&5z&=&15& (b)\-2x&-&10y&-&z&=&-15& (c)endcases$$



Substracting (c) from (b), one gets $z=5$. Plugging this value in (a),(b) or (c) gives the same equation $x+5y=5$. It suffices then to take $x=5$ and $y=0$.



Explanation for (2) :



In homogeneous system



$$begincasesx&+&5y&-&z&=&0& (a)\-2x&-&10y&+&5z&=&0& (b)\-2x&-&10y&-&z&=&0& (c)endcases$$



Substracting (c) from (b), one gets this time $z=0$. Plugging this value in (a),(b) or (c) gives the same equation $x+5y=0$. It suffices then to take $x=-5y$.



Thus the general solution of the homogeneous equation is :



$$beginpmatrixx\y\zendpmatrix=beginpmatrix-5y\y\0endpmatrix=ybeginpmatrix-5\1\0endpmatrix.$$



Please note that, in fact, arbitrary constant $k$ is ordinate $y$.






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After Gaussian elimination we get a system in echelon form,



$$beginpmatrix1&5&-1\0&0&3\0&0&0endpmatrixbeginpmatrixx\y\zendpmatrix=beginpmatrix0\15\0endpmatrix.$$



So by the second equation, $z=5$ and by the first $x+5y=5$. This is all you can say.






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    Matrix A reduces to 1,5,00,0,10,0,0 after gaussian elimination.
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    – sawreals2
    Mar 20 at 11:10






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    @sawreals2: and what is the right member ?
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    – Yves Daoust
    Mar 20 at 11:11










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    1,0,0 on the right of the equation.
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    – sawreals2
    Mar 20 at 11:13






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    $begingroup$
    @sawreals2: this is wrong.
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    Mar 20 at 11:16






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    @sawreals2: my bad, fixed. Your RHS is wrong.
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After Gaussian elimination we get a system in echelon form,



$$beginpmatrix1&5&-1\0&0&3\0&0&0endpmatrixbeginpmatrixx\y\zendpmatrix=beginpmatrix0\15\0endpmatrix.$$



So by the second equation, $z=5$ and by the first $x+5y=5$. This is all you can say.






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    Matrix A reduces to 1,5,00,0,10,0,0 after gaussian elimination.
    $endgroup$
    – sawreals2
    Mar 20 at 11:10






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    $begingroup$
    @sawreals2: and what is the right member ?
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    – Yves Daoust
    Mar 20 at 11:11










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    1,0,0 on the right of the equation.
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    – sawreals2
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    @sawreals2: this is wrong.
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After Gaussian elimination we get a system in echelon form,



$$beginpmatrix1&5&-1\0&0&3\0&0&0endpmatrixbeginpmatrixx\y\zendpmatrix=beginpmatrix0\15\0endpmatrix.$$



So by the second equation, $z=5$ and by the first $x+5y=5$. This is all you can say.






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After Gaussian elimination we get a system in echelon form,



$$beginpmatrix1&5&-1\0&0&3\0&0&0endpmatrixbeginpmatrixx\y\zendpmatrix=beginpmatrix0\15\0endpmatrix.$$



So by the second equation, $z=5$ and by the first $x+5y=5$. This is all you can say.







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    Matrix A reduces to 1,5,00,0,10,0,0 after gaussian elimination.
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    $begingroup$
    @sawreals2: and what is the right member ?
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  • $begingroup$
    1,0,0 on the right of the equation.
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    – sawreals2
    Mar 20 at 11:13






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    $begingroup$
    @sawreals2: this is wrong.
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    – Yves Daoust
    Mar 20 at 11:16






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    Matrix A reduces to 1,5,00,0,10,0,0 after gaussian elimination.
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    – sawreals2
    Mar 20 at 11:10






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    @sawreals2: and what is the right member ?
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    1,0,0 on the right of the equation.
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    – sawreals2
    Mar 20 at 11:13






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    $begingroup$
    @sawreals2: this is wrong.
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    – Yves Daoust
    Mar 20 at 11:16






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    @sawreals2: my bad, fixed. Your RHS is wrong.
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Matrix A reduces to 1,5,00,0,10,0,0 after gaussian elimination.
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– sawreals2
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Matrix A reduces to 1,5,00,0,10,0,0 after gaussian elimination.
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– sawreals2
Mar 20 at 11:10




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$begingroup$
@sawreals2: and what is the right member ?
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@sawreals2: and what is the right member ?
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1,0,0 on the right of the equation.
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– sawreals2
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1,0,0 on the right of the equation.
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– sawreals2
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@sawreals2: this is wrong.
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@sawreals2: this is wrong.
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@sawreals2: my bad, fixed. Your RHS is wrong.
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Yes, it is true that $det(A)=0$. So $A^-1$ is meaningless. Nevertheless we can solve $Ax=b$ with $b=(0,15,-15)^T$ by, say, $x=(1,4/5,5)$. For this, we write $x=(x_1,x_2,x_3)$ and obtain three linear equations, namely
$$
x_1+5x_2-x_3= - 2x_1 - 10x_2 + 5x_3 - 15= - 2x_1 - 10x_2 - x_3 + 15=0.
$$

If we substitute $x_3$ from the last equation, we obtain $- x_1 - 5x_2 + 5=0$. With $x_1=5-5x_2$ all equations are satisfied.






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    That $x$ would not work for the first coordinate.
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    – Floris Claassens
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    The solution is given without explanation and is… wrong.
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    @YvesDaoust Sorry, it was a typo. Now I have also an explanation.
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Yes, it is true that $det(A)=0$. So $A^-1$ is meaningless. Nevertheless we can solve $Ax=b$ with $b=(0,15,-15)^T$ by, say, $x=(1,4/5,5)$. For this, we write $x=(x_1,x_2,x_3)$ and obtain three linear equations, namely
$$
x_1+5x_2-x_3= - 2x_1 - 10x_2 + 5x_3 - 15= - 2x_1 - 10x_2 - x_3 + 15=0.
$$

If we substitute $x_3$ from the last equation, we obtain $- x_1 - 5x_2 + 5=0$. With $x_1=5-5x_2$ all equations are satisfied.






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Yes, it is true that $det(A)=0$. So $A^-1$ is meaningless. Nevertheless we can solve $Ax=b$ with $b=(0,15,-15)^T$ by, say, $x=(1,4/5,5)$. For this, we write $x=(x_1,x_2,x_3)$ and obtain three linear equations, namely
$$
x_1+5x_2-x_3= - 2x_1 - 10x_2 + 5x_3 - 15= - 2x_1 - 10x_2 - x_3 + 15=0.
$$

If we substitute $x_3$ from the last equation, we obtain $- x_1 - 5x_2 + 5=0$. With $x_1=5-5x_2$ all equations are satisfied.






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Yes, it is true that $det(A)=0$. So $A^-1$ is meaningless. Nevertheless we can solve $Ax=b$ with $b=(0,15,-15)^T$ by, say, $x=(1,4/5,5)$. For this, we write $x=(x_1,x_2,x_3)$ and obtain three linear equations, namely
$$
x_1+5x_2-x_3= - 2x_1 - 10x_2 + 5x_3 - 15= - 2x_1 - 10x_2 - x_3 + 15=0.
$$

If we substitute $x_3$ from the last equation, we obtain $- x_1 - 5x_2 + 5=0$. With $x_1=5-5x_2$ all equations are satisfied.







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That $x$ would not work for the first coordinate.
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– Floris Claassens
Mar 20 at 11:03




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That $x$ would not work for the first coordinate.
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– Floris Claassens
Mar 20 at 11:03




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The solution is given without explanation and is… wrong.
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– Yves Daoust
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The solution is given without explanation and is… wrong.
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– Yves Daoust
Mar 20 at 11:09












$begingroup$
@YvesDaoust Sorry, it was a typo. Now I have also an explanation.
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– Dietrich Burde
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The most general solution of a square linear system $AX=B$ can be written



$$X=X_0+X_1$$



where :



  • 1) $X_0$ is a particular solution of system $AX=B$.


  • 2) $X_1$ is the general solution of the associated homogeneous system $AX=0$ (in more abstract terms : the generic element of the kernel of $A$).


In the case at hand,



1) has solution (see explanations below):
$$X_0=beginpmatrix5\0\5endpmatrix.$$



2) has solution
$$X_1=kbeginpmatrix-5\1\0endpmatrix textfor any real k.$$



Thus the general solution is



$$X_0+X_1=beginpmatrix5-5k\k\5endpmatrix textfor any real k.$$



Remark : this formulation "particular solution of... + general solution of ..." is the same for linear differential equations.




Explanation for (1) : There are in fact many solutions ; here is a way to obtain one :



In system



$$begincasesx&+&5y&-&z&=&0& (a)\-2x&-&10y&+&5z&=&15& (b)\-2x&-&10y&-&z&=&-15& (c)endcases$$



Substracting (c) from (b), one gets $z=5$. Plugging this value in (a),(b) or (c) gives the same equation $x+5y=5$. It suffices then to take $x=5$ and $y=0$.



Explanation for (2) :



In homogeneous system



$$begincasesx&+&5y&-&z&=&0& (a)\-2x&-&10y&+&5z&=&0& (b)\-2x&-&10y&-&z&=&0& (c)endcases$$



Substracting (c) from (b), one gets this time $z=0$. Plugging this value in (a),(b) or (c) gives the same equation $x+5y=0$. It suffices then to take $x=-5y$.



Thus the general solution of the homogeneous equation is :



$$beginpmatrixx\y\zendpmatrix=beginpmatrix-5y\y\0endpmatrix=ybeginpmatrix-5\1\0endpmatrix.$$



Please note that, in fact, arbitrary constant $k$ is ordinate $y$.






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    Now it is a complete solution. But I was also in the spirit of the site by not giving the solution but a large hint in a direction that had an "added-value" compared to other solutions.
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0












$begingroup$

The most general solution of a square linear system $AX=B$ can be written



$$X=X_0+X_1$$



where :



  • 1) $X_0$ is a particular solution of system $AX=B$.


  • 2) $X_1$ is the general solution of the associated homogeneous system $AX=0$ (in more abstract terms : the generic element of the kernel of $A$).


In the case at hand,



1) has solution (see explanations below):
$$X_0=beginpmatrix5\0\5endpmatrix.$$



2) has solution
$$X_1=kbeginpmatrix-5\1\0endpmatrix textfor any real k.$$



Thus the general solution is



$$X_0+X_1=beginpmatrix5-5k\k\5endpmatrix textfor any real k.$$



Remark : this formulation "particular solution of... + general solution of ..." is the same for linear differential equations.




Explanation for (1) : There are in fact many solutions ; here is a way to obtain one :



In system



$$begincasesx&+&5y&-&z&=&0& (a)\-2x&-&10y&+&5z&=&15& (b)\-2x&-&10y&-&z&=&-15& (c)endcases$$



Substracting (c) from (b), one gets $z=5$. Plugging this value in (a),(b) or (c) gives the same equation $x+5y=5$. It suffices then to take $x=5$ and $y=0$.



Explanation for (2) :



In homogeneous system



$$begincasesx&+&5y&-&z&=&0& (a)\-2x&-&10y&+&5z&=&0& (b)\-2x&-&10y&-&z&=&0& (c)endcases$$



Substracting (c) from (b), one gets this time $z=0$. Plugging this value in (a),(b) or (c) gives the same equation $x+5y=0$. It suffices then to take $x=-5y$.



Thus the general solution of the homogeneous equation is :



$$beginpmatrixx\y\zendpmatrix=beginpmatrix-5y\y\0endpmatrix=ybeginpmatrix-5\1\0endpmatrix.$$



Please note that, in fact, arbitrary constant $k$ is ordinate $y$.






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    At best this is a hint, but more appropriately a comment.
    $endgroup$
    – Yves Daoust
    Mar 20 at 11:13










  • $begingroup$
    @Yves Daoust I am going to give explicitly the expression in the case at hand.
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Mar 20 at 11:15






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Can't you wait to publish the answer ?
    $endgroup$
    – Yves Daoust
    Mar 20 at 11:16










  • $begingroup$
    Now it is a complete solution. But I was also in the spirit of the site by not giving the solution but a large hint in a direction that had an "added-value" compared to other solutions.
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Mar 20 at 11:34










  • $begingroup$
    I am surprized of this downvote for a complete solution, but as the french proverb say "les chiens aboient, la caravane passe".
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Mar 20 at 11:45













0












0








0





$begingroup$

The most general solution of a square linear system $AX=B$ can be written



$$X=X_0+X_1$$



where :



  • 1) $X_0$ is a particular solution of system $AX=B$.


  • 2) $X_1$ is the general solution of the associated homogeneous system $AX=0$ (in more abstract terms : the generic element of the kernel of $A$).


In the case at hand,



1) has solution (see explanations below):
$$X_0=beginpmatrix5\0\5endpmatrix.$$



2) has solution
$$X_1=kbeginpmatrix-5\1\0endpmatrix textfor any real k.$$



Thus the general solution is



$$X_0+X_1=beginpmatrix5-5k\k\5endpmatrix textfor any real k.$$



Remark : this formulation "particular solution of... + general solution of ..." is the same for linear differential equations.




Explanation for (1) : There are in fact many solutions ; here is a way to obtain one :



In system



$$begincasesx&+&5y&-&z&=&0& (a)\-2x&-&10y&+&5z&=&15& (b)\-2x&-&10y&-&z&=&-15& (c)endcases$$



Substracting (c) from (b), one gets $z=5$. Plugging this value in (a),(b) or (c) gives the same equation $x+5y=5$. It suffices then to take $x=5$ and $y=0$.



Explanation for (2) :



In homogeneous system



$$begincasesx&+&5y&-&z&=&0& (a)\-2x&-&10y&+&5z&=&0& (b)\-2x&-&10y&-&z&=&0& (c)endcases$$



Substracting (c) from (b), one gets this time $z=0$. Plugging this value in (a),(b) or (c) gives the same equation $x+5y=0$. It suffices then to take $x=-5y$.



Thus the general solution of the homogeneous equation is :



$$beginpmatrixx\y\zendpmatrix=beginpmatrix-5y\y\0endpmatrix=ybeginpmatrix-5\1\0endpmatrix.$$



Please note that, in fact, arbitrary constant $k$ is ordinate $y$.






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The most general solution of a square linear system $AX=B$ can be written



$$X=X_0+X_1$$



where :



  • 1) $X_0$ is a particular solution of system $AX=B$.


  • 2) $X_1$ is the general solution of the associated homogeneous system $AX=0$ (in more abstract terms : the generic element of the kernel of $A$).


In the case at hand,



1) has solution (see explanations below):
$$X_0=beginpmatrix5\0\5endpmatrix.$$



2) has solution
$$X_1=kbeginpmatrix-5\1\0endpmatrix textfor any real k.$$



Thus the general solution is



$$X_0+X_1=beginpmatrix5-5k\k\5endpmatrix textfor any real k.$$



Remark : this formulation "particular solution of... + general solution of ..." is the same for linear differential equations.




Explanation for (1) : There are in fact many solutions ; here is a way to obtain one :



In system



$$begincasesx&+&5y&-&z&=&0& (a)\-2x&-&10y&+&5z&=&15& (b)\-2x&-&10y&-&z&=&-15& (c)endcases$$



Substracting (c) from (b), one gets $z=5$. Plugging this value in (a),(b) or (c) gives the same equation $x+5y=5$. It suffices then to take $x=5$ and $y=0$.



Explanation for (2) :



In homogeneous system



$$begincasesx&+&5y&-&z&=&0& (a)\-2x&-&10y&+&5z&=&0& (b)\-2x&-&10y&-&z&=&0& (c)endcases$$



Substracting (c) from (b), one gets this time $z=0$. Plugging this value in (a),(b) or (c) gives the same equation $x+5y=0$. It suffices then to take $x=-5y$.



Thus the general solution of the homogeneous equation is :



$$beginpmatrixx\y\zendpmatrix=beginpmatrix-5y\y\0endpmatrix=ybeginpmatrix-5\1\0endpmatrix.$$



Please note that, in fact, arbitrary constant $k$ is ordinate $y$.







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  • $begingroup$
    @Yves Daoust I am going to give explicitly the expression in the case at hand.
    $endgroup$
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    Mar 20 at 11:15






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    Can't you wait to publish the answer ?
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  • $begingroup$
    Now it is a complete solution. But I was also in the spirit of the site by not giving the solution but a large hint in a direction that had an "added-value" compared to other solutions.
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Mar 20 at 11:34










  • $begingroup$
    I am surprized of this downvote for a complete solution, but as the french proverb say "les chiens aboient, la caravane passe".
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Mar 20 at 11:45












  • 1




    $begingroup$
    At best this is a hint, but more appropriately a comment.
    $endgroup$
    – Yves Daoust
    Mar 20 at 11:13










  • $begingroup$
    @Yves Daoust I am going to give explicitly the expression in the case at hand.
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Mar 20 at 11:15






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Can't you wait to publish the answer ?
    $endgroup$
    – Yves Daoust
    Mar 20 at 11:16










  • $begingroup$
    Now it is a complete solution. But I was also in the spirit of the site by not giving the solution but a large hint in a direction that had an "added-value" compared to other solutions.
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Mar 20 at 11:34










  • $begingroup$
    I am surprized of this downvote for a complete solution, but as the french proverb say "les chiens aboient, la caravane passe".
    $endgroup$
    – Jean Marie
    Mar 20 at 11:45







1




1




$begingroup$
At best this is a hint, but more appropriately a comment.
$endgroup$
– Yves Daoust
Mar 20 at 11:13




$begingroup$
At best this is a hint, but more appropriately a comment.
$endgroup$
– Yves Daoust
Mar 20 at 11:13












$begingroup$
@Yves Daoust I am going to give explicitly the expression in the case at hand.
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Mar 20 at 11:15




$begingroup$
@Yves Daoust I am going to give explicitly the expression in the case at hand.
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Mar 20 at 11:15




1




1




$begingroup$
Can't you wait to publish the answer ?
$endgroup$
– Yves Daoust
Mar 20 at 11:16




$begingroup$
Can't you wait to publish the answer ?
$endgroup$
– Yves Daoust
Mar 20 at 11:16












$begingroup$
Now it is a complete solution. But I was also in the spirit of the site by not giving the solution but a large hint in a direction that had an "added-value" compared to other solutions.
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Mar 20 at 11:34




$begingroup$
Now it is a complete solution. But I was also in the spirit of the site by not giving the solution but a large hint in a direction that had an "added-value" compared to other solutions.
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Mar 20 at 11:34












$begingroup$
I am surprized of this downvote for a complete solution, but as the french proverb say "les chiens aboient, la caravane passe".
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Mar 20 at 11:45




$begingroup$
I am surprized of this downvote for a complete solution, but as the french proverb say "les chiens aboient, la caravane passe".
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Mar 20 at 11:45

















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