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How to evaluate this infinite sum involving powers and trigonometric terms?


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I wish to find out the following infinite sum:



$$lim_nto inftysum_k=0^nleft(frac29right)^ksinleft[frac2pi3(2^k)right]$$



I can sum up a GP or an AGP well, and know telescoping series, how can I find this infinite sum? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!










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    Do you have any reason to think the sum can be expressed in closed form?
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    What is the origin of the problem?
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    @RobertIsrael I didnt get you....
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I wish to find out the following infinite sum:



$$lim_nto inftysum_k=0^nleft(frac29right)^ksinleft[frac2pi3(2^k)right]$$



I can sum up a GP or an AGP well, and know telescoping series, how can I find this infinite sum? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!










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    Do you have any reason to think the sum can be expressed in closed form?
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I wish to find out the following infinite sum:



$$lim_nto inftysum_k=0^nleft(frac29right)^ksinleft[frac2pi3(2^k)right]$$



I can sum up a GP or an AGP well, and know telescoping series, how can I find this infinite sum? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!










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I wish to find out the following infinite sum:



$$lim_nto inftysum_k=0^nleft(frac29right)^ksinleft[frac2pi3(2^k)right]$$



I can sum up a GP or an AGP well, and know telescoping series, how can I find this infinite sum? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!







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    $begingroup$
    Do you have any reason to think the sum can be expressed in closed form?
    $endgroup$
    – Robert Israel
    Mar 22 at 15:41










  • $begingroup$
    What is the origin of the problem?
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    – user
    Mar 22 at 15:42










  • $begingroup$
    @RobertIsrael I didnt get you....
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    – saisanjeev
    Mar 24 at 9:36












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    $begingroup$
    Do you have any reason to think the sum can be expressed in closed form?
    $endgroup$
    – Robert Israel
    Mar 22 at 15:41










  • $begingroup$
    What is the origin of the problem?
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    – user
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    @RobertIsrael I didnt get you....
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    – saisanjeev
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Do you have any reason to think the sum can be expressed in closed form?
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What is the origin of the problem?
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@RobertIsrael I didnt get you....
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I don't think that there is a closed form. When $k$ is sufficiently large, the argument of the sine becomes tiny and you can use a linear approximation. Hence, denoting $S$ the infinite sum (which converges),



$$sum_k=0^na^ksin(2^-kb)approx S_a,b-sum_k=n+1^infty a^k2^-kb=S_a,b-fraca^n+1b2^n(2-a).$$



A better approximation is obtained by using the next term in the Taylor developments, giving
$$sum_k=0^na^ksin(2^-kb)approx S_a,b-sum_k=n+1^infty a^k2^-kb+frac16sum_k=n+1^infty a^k(2^-kb)^3
\=S_a,b-fraca^n+1b2^n(2-a)+fraca^n+1b^36cdot8^n(8-a),$$



and so on.






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    Why not use the whole Taylor series? For $|a| <2$, $$ sum_n=0^infty a^n sin(2^-n b) = sum _k=0^infty -2,frac 4^k left( -1 right) ^kb^2 ,k+1 left(a -2cdot 4^k right) left( 2,k+1 right) ! $$
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I don't think that there is a closed form. When $k$ is sufficiently large, the argument of the sine becomes tiny and you can use a linear approximation. Hence, denoting $S$ the infinite sum (which converges),



$$sum_k=0^na^ksin(2^-kb)approx S_a,b-sum_k=n+1^infty a^k2^-kb=S_a,b-fraca^n+1b2^n(2-a).$$



A better approximation is obtained by using the next term in the Taylor developments, giving
$$sum_k=0^na^ksin(2^-kb)approx S_a,b-sum_k=n+1^infty a^k2^-kb+frac16sum_k=n+1^infty a^k(2^-kb)^3
\=S_a,b-fraca^n+1b2^n(2-a)+fraca^n+1b^36cdot8^n(8-a),$$



and so on.






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    Why not use the whole Taylor series? For $|a| <2$, $$ sum_n=0^infty a^n sin(2^-n b) = sum _k=0^infty -2,frac 4^k left( -1 right) ^kb^2 ,k+1 left(a -2cdot 4^k right) left( 2,k+1 right) ! $$
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    @RobertIsrael: this was implied by "and so on". ;-)
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$begingroup$

I don't think that there is a closed form. When $k$ is sufficiently large, the argument of the sine becomes tiny and you can use a linear approximation. Hence, denoting $S$ the infinite sum (which converges),



$$sum_k=0^na^ksin(2^-kb)approx S_a,b-sum_k=n+1^infty a^k2^-kb=S_a,b-fraca^n+1b2^n(2-a).$$



A better approximation is obtained by using the next term in the Taylor developments, giving
$$sum_k=0^na^ksin(2^-kb)approx S_a,b-sum_k=n+1^infty a^k2^-kb+frac16sum_k=n+1^infty a^k(2^-kb)^3
\=S_a,b-fraca^n+1b2^n(2-a)+fraca^n+1b^36cdot8^n(8-a),$$



and so on.






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    Why not use the whole Taylor series? For $|a| <2$, $$ sum_n=0^infty a^n sin(2^-n b) = sum _k=0^infty -2,frac 4^k left( -1 right) ^kb^2 ,k+1 left(a -2cdot 4^k right) left( 2,k+1 right) ! $$
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    @RobertIsrael: this was implied by "and so on". ;-)
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$begingroup$

I don't think that there is a closed form. When $k$ is sufficiently large, the argument of the sine becomes tiny and you can use a linear approximation. Hence, denoting $S$ the infinite sum (which converges),



$$sum_k=0^na^ksin(2^-kb)approx S_a,b-sum_k=n+1^infty a^k2^-kb=S_a,b-fraca^n+1b2^n(2-a).$$



A better approximation is obtained by using the next term in the Taylor developments, giving
$$sum_k=0^na^ksin(2^-kb)approx S_a,b-sum_k=n+1^infty a^k2^-kb+frac16sum_k=n+1^infty a^k(2^-kb)^3
\=S_a,b-fraca^n+1b2^n(2-a)+fraca^n+1b^36cdot8^n(8-a),$$



and so on.






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I don't think that there is a closed form. When $k$ is sufficiently large, the argument of the sine becomes tiny and you can use a linear approximation. Hence, denoting $S$ the infinite sum (which converges),



$$sum_k=0^na^ksin(2^-kb)approx S_a,b-sum_k=n+1^infty a^k2^-kb=S_a,b-fraca^n+1b2^n(2-a).$$



A better approximation is obtained by using the next term in the Taylor developments, giving
$$sum_k=0^na^ksin(2^-kb)approx S_a,b-sum_k=n+1^infty a^k2^-kb+frac16sum_k=n+1^infty a^k(2^-kb)^3
\=S_a,b-fraca^n+1b2^n(2-a)+fraca^n+1b^36cdot8^n(8-a),$$



and so on.







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    Why not use the whole Taylor series? For $|a| <2$, $$ sum_n=0^infty a^n sin(2^-n b) = sum _k=0^infty -2,frac 4^k left( -1 right) ^kb^2 ,k+1 left(a -2cdot 4^k right) left( 2,k+1 right) ! $$
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  • $begingroup$
    @RobertIsrael: this was implied by "and so on". ;-)
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  • $begingroup$
    Why not use the whole Taylor series? For $|a| <2$, $$ sum_n=0^infty a^n sin(2^-n b) = sum _k=0^infty -2,frac 4^k left( -1 right) ^kb^2 ,k+1 left(a -2cdot 4^k right) left( 2,k+1 right) ! $$
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    @RobertIsrael: this was implied by "and so on". ;-)
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$begingroup$
Why not use the whole Taylor series? For $|a| <2$, $$ sum_n=0^infty a^n sin(2^-n b) = sum _k=0^infty -2,frac 4^k left( -1 right) ^kb^2 ,k+1 left(a -2cdot 4^k right) left( 2,k+1 right) ! $$
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Why not use the whole Taylor series? For $|a| <2$, $$ sum_n=0^infty a^n sin(2^-n b) = sum _k=0^infty -2,frac 4^k left( -1 right) ^kb^2 ,k+1 left(a -2cdot 4^k right) left( 2,k+1 right) ! $$
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