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Covering space of a compact connected surface without boundary is a compact surface without boundary
Determine whether some explicitly given topologies are compactUnderstanding a proof in RudinLet $X$ be a closed subset of a compact metric space $M$. Then, $X$ is compact.Determining a finite subcover for a compact topological spaceIs bijective continuous map f between the compact topological space X and another topological space Y a homeomorphism?Question on the proof that a closed subset of a compact set is compactUnderstanding compactness and how it relates to finitenessAbout covers, subcovers and compactnessShow the continuous image of a compact set is compact.Compact Space: “every open covering” Vs “an open covering”
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Let $p: X' rightarrow X$ be an n-sheeted cover of $X$. I proved that $X$ being compact implies that $X'$ is compact in the standard way. I started with an open cover of $X'$, projected it under $p$, used compactification to get a finite subset that covers $X$, and then took the inverse image of those subsets to get a finite sub collection of the original open cover.
How can I use this local information in conjunction with compactness of $X'$ and $X$ to show that $X'$ does not have a boundary?
Also, how can I show that $E(X')=nE(X)$ where $E$ is the Euler characteristic.
general-topology algebraic-topology geometric-topology low-dimensional-topology
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Let $p: X' rightarrow X$ be an n-sheeted cover of $X$. I proved that $X$ being compact implies that $X'$ is compact in the standard way. I started with an open cover of $X'$, projected it under $p$, used compactification to get a finite subset that covers $X$, and then took the inverse image of those subsets to get a finite sub collection of the original open cover.
How can I use this local information in conjunction with compactness of $X'$ and $X$ to show that $X'$ does not have a boundary?
Also, how can I show that $E(X')=nE(X)$ where $E$ is the Euler characteristic.
general-topology algebraic-topology geometric-topology low-dimensional-topology
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Why should you have $E(X') = 6 E(X)$? Take for example $n = 1$ in which case $p$ will be a homeomorphism.
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– Paul Frost
Mar 22 at 18:34
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oops was supposed to be n.. Thanks!
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– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 22 at 23:34
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You should tell us which theorems you are allowed to use.
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Let $p: X' rightarrow X$ be an n-sheeted cover of $X$. I proved that $X$ being compact implies that $X'$ is compact in the standard way. I started with an open cover of $X'$, projected it under $p$, used compactification to get a finite subset that covers $X$, and then took the inverse image of those subsets to get a finite sub collection of the original open cover.
How can I use this local information in conjunction with compactness of $X'$ and $X$ to show that $X'$ does not have a boundary?
Also, how can I show that $E(X')=nE(X)$ where $E$ is the Euler characteristic.
general-topology algebraic-topology geometric-topology low-dimensional-topology
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Let $p: X' rightarrow X$ be an n-sheeted cover of $X$. I proved that $X$ being compact implies that $X'$ is compact in the standard way. I started with an open cover of $X'$, projected it under $p$, used compactification to get a finite subset that covers $X$, and then took the inverse image of those subsets to get a finite sub collection of the original open cover.
How can I use this local information in conjunction with compactness of $X'$ and $X$ to show that $X'$ does not have a boundary?
Also, how can I show that $E(X')=nE(X)$ where $E$ is the Euler characteristic.
general-topology algebraic-topology geometric-topology low-dimensional-topology
general-topology algebraic-topology geometric-topology low-dimensional-topology
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Why should you have $E(X') = 6 E(X)$? Take for example $n = 1$ in which case $p$ will be a homeomorphism.
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– Paul Frost
Mar 22 at 18:34
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oops was supposed to be n.. Thanks!
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– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 22 at 23:34
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You should tell us which theorems you are allowed to use.
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– Paul Frost
Mar 23 at 10:52
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Why should you have $E(X') = 6 E(X)$? Take for example $n = 1$ in which case $p$ will be a homeomorphism.
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– Paul Frost
Mar 22 at 18:34
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oops was supposed to be n.. Thanks!
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– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 22 at 23:34
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You should tell us which theorems you are allowed to use.
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– Paul Frost
Mar 23 at 10:52
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Why should you have $E(X') = 6 E(X)$? Take for example $n = 1$ in which case $p$ will be a homeomorphism.
$endgroup$
– Paul Frost
Mar 22 at 18:34
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Why should you have $E(X') = 6 E(X)$? Take for example $n = 1$ in which case $p$ will be a homeomorphism.
$endgroup$
– Paul Frost
Mar 22 at 18:34
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oops was supposed to be n.. Thanks!
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– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 22 at 23:34
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oops was supposed to be n.. Thanks!
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– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 22 at 23:34
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You should tell us which theorems you are allowed to use.
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– Paul Frost
Mar 23 at 10:52
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You should tell us which theorems you are allowed to use.
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Let $x'in X'$. Write $p(x')=x$. Let $U$ an open subset which is a chart of $X$ and which contains $x$ such that $p^-1(U)=V_1,...,V_n$ such that the restriction $p:V_irightarrow U$ is a diffeomorphism. Suppose $x'in V_i_0$. Since $U$ is an open subset of $mathbbR^2$ (the domain of a chart) so is $V_i_0$, we deduce that $x'$ has an open neighborhood diffeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR^2$ and that the boundary of $X'$ is empty.
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When you say that $U$ is a chart of X you mean that there is some map that maps $U$ homeomorphically onto a neighborhood of X? So you are then identifying this neighborhood with $U$ itself, which allows the make $p^-1(U)$ to make sense, but what is really going on is $p^-1(alpha(U))$ Where $alpha$ parameterizes a neighborhood in X, correct? This question is from my algebraic topology class where we haven't talked about charts at all. But this answer makes sense, thank you.
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A chart means a neighborhood homeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR$.
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Wouldn't it depend on what type of manifold you are working with? If you were using an atlas that locally parameterizes a smooth manifold then the charts would have to be diffeomorphisms.
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But what about showing that the Euler Characteristic of the cover space is n times the Euler characteristic of the base?
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Let $x'in X'$. Write $p(x')=x$. Let $U$ an open subset which is a chart of $X$ and which contains $x$ such that $p^-1(U)=V_1,...,V_n$ such that the restriction $p:V_irightarrow U$ is a diffeomorphism. Suppose $x'in V_i_0$. Since $U$ is an open subset of $mathbbR^2$ (the domain of a chart) so is $V_i_0$, we deduce that $x'$ has an open neighborhood diffeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR^2$ and that the boundary of $X'$ is empty.
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When you say that $U$ is a chart of X you mean that there is some map that maps $U$ homeomorphically onto a neighborhood of X? So you are then identifying this neighborhood with $U$ itself, which allows the make $p^-1(U)$ to make sense, but what is really going on is $p^-1(alpha(U))$ Where $alpha$ parameterizes a neighborhood in X, correct? This question is from my algebraic topology class where we haven't talked about charts at all. But this answer makes sense, thank you.
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– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 22 at 23:39
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A chart means a neighborhood homeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR$.
$endgroup$
– Tsemo Aristide
Mar 23 at 0:00
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Wouldn't it depend on what type of manifold you are working with? If you were using an atlas that locally parameterizes a smooth manifold then the charts would have to be diffeomorphisms.
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– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 24 at 13:52
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But what about showing that the Euler Characteristic of the cover space is n times the Euler characteristic of the base?
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– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 24 at 14:00
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Let $x'in X'$. Write $p(x')=x$. Let $U$ an open subset which is a chart of $X$ and which contains $x$ such that $p^-1(U)=V_1,...,V_n$ such that the restriction $p:V_irightarrow U$ is a diffeomorphism. Suppose $x'in V_i_0$. Since $U$ is an open subset of $mathbbR^2$ (the domain of a chart) so is $V_i_0$, we deduce that $x'$ has an open neighborhood diffeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR^2$ and that the boundary of $X'$ is empty.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
When you say that $U$ is a chart of X you mean that there is some map that maps $U$ homeomorphically onto a neighborhood of X? So you are then identifying this neighborhood with $U$ itself, which allows the make $p^-1(U)$ to make sense, but what is really going on is $p^-1(alpha(U))$ Where $alpha$ parameterizes a neighborhood in X, correct? This question is from my algebraic topology class where we haven't talked about charts at all. But this answer makes sense, thank you.
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– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 22 at 23:39
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A chart means a neighborhood homeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR$.
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– Tsemo Aristide
Mar 23 at 0:00
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Wouldn't it depend on what type of manifold you are working with? If you were using an atlas that locally parameterizes a smooth manifold then the charts would have to be diffeomorphisms.
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– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 24 at 13:52
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But what about showing that the Euler Characteristic of the cover space is n times the Euler characteristic of the base?
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– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 24 at 14:00
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Let $x'in X'$. Write $p(x')=x$. Let $U$ an open subset which is a chart of $X$ and which contains $x$ such that $p^-1(U)=V_1,...,V_n$ such that the restriction $p:V_irightarrow U$ is a diffeomorphism. Suppose $x'in V_i_0$. Since $U$ is an open subset of $mathbbR^2$ (the domain of a chart) so is $V_i_0$, we deduce that $x'$ has an open neighborhood diffeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR^2$ and that the boundary of $X'$ is empty.
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Let $x'in X'$. Write $p(x')=x$. Let $U$ an open subset which is a chart of $X$ and which contains $x$ such that $p^-1(U)=V_1,...,V_n$ such that the restriction $p:V_irightarrow U$ is a diffeomorphism. Suppose $x'in V_i_0$. Since $U$ is an open subset of $mathbbR^2$ (the domain of a chart) so is $V_i_0$, we deduce that $x'$ has an open neighborhood diffeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR^2$ and that the boundary of $X'$ is empty.
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When you say that $U$ is a chart of X you mean that there is some map that maps $U$ homeomorphically onto a neighborhood of X? So you are then identifying this neighborhood with $U$ itself, which allows the make $p^-1(U)$ to make sense, but what is really going on is $p^-1(alpha(U))$ Where $alpha$ parameterizes a neighborhood in X, correct? This question is from my algebraic topology class where we haven't talked about charts at all. But this answer makes sense, thank you.
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– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 22 at 23:39
$begingroup$
A chart means a neighborhood homeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR$.
$endgroup$
– Tsemo Aristide
Mar 23 at 0:00
$begingroup$
Wouldn't it depend on what type of manifold you are working with? If you were using an atlas that locally parameterizes a smooth manifold then the charts would have to be diffeomorphisms.
$endgroup$
– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 24 at 13:52
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But what about showing that the Euler Characteristic of the cover space is n times the Euler characteristic of the base?
$endgroup$
– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 24 at 14:00
add a comment |
$begingroup$
When you say that $U$ is a chart of X you mean that there is some map that maps $U$ homeomorphically onto a neighborhood of X? So you are then identifying this neighborhood with $U$ itself, which allows the make $p^-1(U)$ to make sense, but what is really going on is $p^-1(alpha(U))$ Where $alpha$ parameterizes a neighborhood in X, correct? This question is from my algebraic topology class where we haven't talked about charts at all. But this answer makes sense, thank you.
$endgroup$
– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 22 at 23:39
$begingroup$
A chart means a neighborhood homeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR$.
$endgroup$
– Tsemo Aristide
Mar 23 at 0:00
$begingroup$
Wouldn't it depend on what type of manifold you are working with? If you were using an atlas that locally parameterizes a smooth manifold then the charts would have to be diffeomorphisms.
$endgroup$
– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 24 at 13:52
$begingroup$
But what about showing that the Euler Characteristic of the cover space is n times the Euler characteristic of the base?
$endgroup$
– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 24 at 14:00
$begingroup$
When you say that $U$ is a chart of X you mean that there is some map that maps $U$ homeomorphically onto a neighborhood of X? So you are then identifying this neighborhood with $U$ itself, which allows the make $p^-1(U)$ to make sense, but what is really going on is $p^-1(alpha(U))$ Where $alpha$ parameterizes a neighborhood in X, correct? This question is from my algebraic topology class where we haven't talked about charts at all. But this answer makes sense, thank you.
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– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 22 at 23:39
$begingroup$
When you say that $U$ is a chart of X you mean that there is some map that maps $U$ homeomorphically onto a neighborhood of X? So you are then identifying this neighborhood with $U$ itself, which allows the make $p^-1(U)$ to make sense, but what is really going on is $p^-1(alpha(U))$ Where $alpha$ parameterizes a neighborhood in X, correct? This question is from my algebraic topology class where we haven't talked about charts at all. But this answer makes sense, thank you.
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– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 22 at 23:39
$begingroup$
A chart means a neighborhood homeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR$.
$endgroup$
– Tsemo Aristide
Mar 23 at 0:00
$begingroup$
A chart means a neighborhood homeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR$.
$endgroup$
– Tsemo Aristide
Mar 23 at 0:00
$begingroup$
Wouldn't it depend on what type of manifold you are working with? If you were using an atlas that locally parameterizes a smooth manifold then the charts would have to be diffeomorphisms.
$endgroup$
– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 24 at 13:52
$begingroup$
Wouldn't it depend on what type of manifold you are working with? If you were using an atlas that locally parameterizes a smooth manifold then the charts would have to be diffeomorphisms.
$endgroup$
– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 24 at 13:52
$begingroup$
But what about showing that the Euler Characteristic of the cover space is n times the Euler characteristic of the base?
$endgroup$
– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 24 at 14:00
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But what about showing that the Euler Characteristic of the cover space is n times the Euler characteristic of the base?
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– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 24 at 14:00
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Why should you have $E(X') = 6 E(X)$? Take for example $n = 1$ in which case $p$ will be a homeomorphism.
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– Paul Frost
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oops was supposed to be n.. Thanks!
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You should tell us which theorems you are allowed to use.
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