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Covering space of a compact connected surface without boundary is a compact surface without boundary


Determine whether some explicitly given topologies are compactUnderstanding a proof in RudinLet $X$ be a closed subset of a compact metric space $M$. Then, $X$ is compact.Determining a finite subcover for a compact topological spaceIs bijective continuous map f between the compact topological space X and another topological space Y a homeomorphism?Question on the proof that a closed subset of a compact set is compactUnderstanding compactness and how it relates to finitenessAbout covers, subcovers and compactnessShow the continuous image of a compact set is compact.Compact Space: “every open covering” Vs “an open covering”













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Let $p: X' rightarrow X$ be an n-sheeted cover of $X$. I proved that $X$ being compact implies that $X'$ is compact in the standard way. I started with an open cover of $X'$, projected it under $p$, used compactification to get a finite subset that covers $X$, and then took the inverse image of those subsets to get a finite sub collection of the original open cover.



How can I use this local information in conjunction with compactness of $X'$ and $X$ to show that $X'$ does not have a boundary?



Also, how can I show that $E(X')=nE(X)$ where $E$ is the Euler characteristic.










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    Why should you have $E(X') = 6 E(X)$? Take for example $n = 1$ in which case $p$ will be a homeomorphism.
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    oops was supposed to be n.. Thanks!
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Let $p: X' rightarrow X$ be an n-sheeted cover of $X$. I proved that $X$ being compact implies that $X'$ is compact in the standard way. I started with an open cover of $X'$, projected it under $p$, used compactification to get a finite subset that covers $X$, and then took the inverse image of those subsets to get a finite sub collection of the original open cover.



How can I use this local information in conjunction with compactness of $X'$ and $X$ to show that $X'$ does not have a boundary?



Also, how can I show that $E(X')=nE(X)$ where $E$ is the Euler characteristic.










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  • $begingroup$
    Why should you have $E(X') = 6 E(X)$? Take for example $n = 1$ in which case $p$ will be a homeomorphism.
    $endgroup$
    – Paul Frost
    Mar 22 at 18:34










  • $begingroup$
    oops was supposed to be n.. Thanks!
    $endgroup$
    – Mathematical Mushroom
    Mar 22 at 23:34










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    You should tell us which theorems you are allowed to use.
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    – Paul Frost
    Mar 23 at 10:52













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Let $p: X' rightarrow X$ be an n-sheeted cover of $X$. I proved that $X$ being compact implies that $X'$ is compact in the standard way. I started with an open cover of $X'$, projected it under $p$, used compactification to get a finite subset that covers $X$, and then took the inverse image of those subsets to get a finite sub collection of the original open cover.



How can I use this local information in conjunction with compactness of $X'$ and $X$ to show that $X'$ does not have a boundary?



Also, how can I show that $E(X')=nE(X)$ where $E$ is the Euler characteristic.










share|cite|improve this question











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Let $p: X' rightarrow X$ be an n-sheeted cover of $X$. I proved that $X$ being compact implies that $X'$ is compact in the standard way. I started with an open cover of $X'$, projected it under $p$, used compactification to get a finite subset that covers $X$, and then took the inverse image of those subsets to get a finite sub collection of the original open cover.



How can I use this local information in conjunction with compactness of $X'$ and $X$ to show that $X'$ does not have a boundary?



Also, how can I show that $E(X')=nE(X)$ where $E$ is the Euler characteristic.







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  • $begingroup$
    Why should you have $E(X') = 6 E(X)$? Take for example $n = 1$ in which case $p$ will be a homeomorphism.
    $endgroup$
    – Paul Frost
    Mar 22 at 18:34










  • $begingroup$
    oops was supposed to be n.. Thanks!
    $endgroup$
    – Mathematical Mushroom
    Mar 22 at 23:34










  • $begingroup$
    You should tell us which theorems you are allowed to use.
    $endgroup$
    – Paul Frost
    Mar 23 at 10:52
















  • $begingroup$
    Why should you have $E(X') = 6 E(X)$? Take for example $n = 1$ in which case $p$ will be a homeomorphism.
    $endgroup$
    – Paul Frost
    Mar 22 at 18:34










  • $begingroup$
    oops was supposed to be n.. Thanks!
    $endgroup$
    – Mathematical Mushroom
    Mar 22 at 23:34










  • $begingroup$
    You should tell us which theorems you are allowed to use.
    $endgroup$
    – Paul Frost
    Mar 23 at 10:52















$begingroup$
Why should you have $E(X') = 6 E(X)$? Take for example $n = 1$ in which case $p$ will be a homeomorphism.
$endgroup$
– Paul Frost
Mar 22 at 18:34




$begingroup$
Why should you have $E(X') = 6 E(X)$? Take for example $n = 1$ in which case $p$ will be a homeomorphism.
$endgroup$
– Paul Frost
Mar 22 at 18:34












$begingroup$
oops was supposed to be n.. Thanks!
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– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 22 at 23:34




$begingroup$
oops was supposed to be n.. Thanks!
$endgroup$
– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 22 at 23:34












$begingroup$
You should tell us which theorems you are allowed to use.
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– Paul Frost
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Let $x'in X'$. Write $p(x')=x$. Let $U$ an open subset which is a chart of $X$ and which contains $x$ such that $p^-1(U)=V_1,...,V_n$ such that the restriction $p:V_irightarrow U$ is a diffeomorphism. Suppose $x'in V_i_0$. Since $U$ is an open subset of $mathbbR^2$ (the domain of a chart) so is $V_i_0$, we deduce that $x'$ has an open neighborhood diffeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR^2$ and that the boundary of $X'$ is empty.






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    When you say that $U$ is a chart of X you mean that there is some map that maps $U$ homeomorphically onto a neighborhood of X? So you are then identifying this neighborhood with $U$ itself, which allows the make $p^-1(U)$ to make sense, but what is really going on is $p^-1(alpha(U))$ Where $alpha$ parameterizes a neighborhood in X, correct? This question is from my algebraic topology class where we haven't talked about charts at all. But this answer makes sense, thank you.
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    A chart means a neighborhood homeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR$.
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    Wouldn't it depend on what type of manifold you are working with? If you were using an atlas that locally parameterizes a smooth manifold then the charts would have to be diffeomorphisms.
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    But what about showing that the Euler Characteristic of the cover space is n times the Euler characteristic of the base?
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Let $x'in X'$. Write $p(x')=x$. Let $U$ an open subset which is a chart of $X$ and which contains $x$ such that $p^-1(U)=V_1,...,V_n$ such that the restriction $p:V_irightarrow U$ is a diffeomorphism. Suppose $x'in V_i_0$. Since $U$ is an open subset of $mathbbR^2$ (the domain of a chart) so is $V_i_0$, we deduce that $x'$ has an open neighborhood diffeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR^2$ and that the boundary of $X'$ is empty.






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    When you say that $U$ is a chart of X you mean that there is some map that maps $U$ homeomorphically onto a neighborhood of X? So you are then identifying this neighborhood with $U$ itself, which allows the make $p^-1(U)$ to make sense, but what is really going on is $p^-1(alpha(U))$ Where $alpha$ parameterizes a neighborhood in X, correct? This question is from my algebraic topology class where we haven't talked about charts at all. But this answer makes sense, thank you.
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    A chart means a neighborhood homeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR$.
    $endgroup$
    – Tsemo Aristide
    Mar 23 at 0:00










  • $begingroup$
    Wouldn't it depend on what type of manifold you are working with? If you were using an atlas that locally parameterizes a smooth manifold then the charts would have to be diffeomorphisms.
    $endgroup$
    – Mathematical Mushroom
    Mar 24 at 13:52










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    But what about showing that the Euler Characteristic of the cover space is n times the Euler characteristic of the base?
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Let $x'in X'$. Write $p(x')=x$. Let $U$ an open subset which is a chart of $X$ and which contains $x$ such that $p^-1(U)=V_1,...,V_n$ such that the restriction $p:V_irightarrow U$ is a diffeomorphism. Suppose $x'in V_i_0$. Since $U$ is an open subset of $mathbbR^2$ (the domain of a chart) so is $V_i_0$, we deduce that $x'$ has an open neighborhood diffeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR^2$ and that the boundary of $X'$ is empty.






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  • $begingroup$
    When you say that $U$ is a chart of X you mean that there is some map that maps $U$ homeomorphically onto a neighborhood of X? So you are then identifying this neighborhood with $U$ itself, which allows the make $p^-1(U)$ to make sense, but what is really going on is $p^-1(alpha(U))$ Where $alpha$ parameterizes a neighborhood in X, correct? This question is from my algebraic topology class where we haven't talked about charts at all. But this answer makes sense, thank you.
    $endgroup$
    – Mathematical Mushroom
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  • $begingroup$
    A chart means a neighborhood homeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR$.
    $endgroup$
    – Tsemo Aristide
    Mar 23 at 0:00










  • $begingroup$
    Wouldn't it depend on what type of manifold you are working with? If you were using an atlas that locally parameterizes a smooth manifold then the charts would have to be diffeomorphisms.
    $endgroup$
    – Mathematical Mushroom
    Mar 24 at 13:52










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    But what about showing that the Euler Characteristic of the cover space is n times the Euler characteristic of the base?
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Let $x'in X'$. Write $p(x')=x$. Let $U$ an open subset which is a chart of $X$ and which contains $x$ such that $p^-1(U)=V_1,...,V_n$ such that the restriction $p:V_irightarrow U$ is a diffeomorphism. Suppose $x'in V_i_0$. Since $U$ is an open subset of $mathbbR^2$ (the domain of a chart) so is $V_i_0$, we deduce that $x'$ has an open neighborhood diffeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR^2$ and that the boundary of $X'$ is empty.






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Let $x'in X'$. Write $p(x')=x$. Let $U$ an open subset which is a chart of $X$ and which contains $x$ such that $p^-1(U)=V_1,...,V_n$ such that the restriction $p:V_irightarrow U$ is a diffeomorphism. Suppose $x'in V_i_0$. Since $U$ is an open subset of $mathbbR^2$ (the domain of a chart) so is $V_i_0$, we deduce that $x'$ has an open neighborhood diffeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR^2$ and that the boundary of $X'$ is empty.







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  • $begingroup$
    When you say that $U$ is a chart of X you mean that there is some map that maps $U$ homeomorphically onto a neighborhood of X? So you are then identifying this neighborhood with $U$ itself, which allows the make $p^-1(U)$ to make sense, but what is really going on is $p^-1(alpha(U))$ Where $alpha$ parameterizes a neighborhood in X, correct? This question is from my algebraic topology class where we haven't talked about charts at all. But this answer makes sense, thank you.
    $endgroup$
    – Mathematical Mushroom
    Mar 22 at 23:39











  • $begingroup$
    A chart means a neighborhood homeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR$.
    $endgroup$
    – Tsemo Aristide
    Mar 23 at 0:00










  • $begingroup$
    Wouldn't it depend on what type of manifold you are working with? If you were using an atlas that locally parameterizes a smooth manifold then the charts would have to be diffeomorphisms.
    $endgroup$
    – Mathematical Mushroom
    Mar 24 at 13:52










  • $begingroup$
    But what about showing that the Euler Characteristic of the cover space is n times the Euler characteristic of the base?
    $endgroup$
    – Mathematical Mushroom
    Mar 24 at 14:00
















  • $begingroup$
    When you say that $U$ is a chart of X you mean that there is some map that maps $U$ homeomorphically onto a neighborhood of X? So you are then identifying this neighborhood with $U$ itself, which allows the make $p^-1(U)$ to make sense, but what is really going on is $p^-1(alpha(U))$ Where $alpha$ parameterizes a neighborhood in X, correct? This question is from my algebraic topology class where we haven't talked about charts at all. But this answer makes sense, thank you.
    $endgroup$
    – Mathematical Mushroom
    Mar 22 at 23:39











  • $begingroup$
    A chart means a neighborhood homeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR$.
    $endgroup$
    – Tsemo Aristide
    Mar 23 at 0:00










  • $begingroup$
    Wouldn't it depend on what type of manifold you are working with? If you were using an atlas that locally parameterizes a smooth manifold then the charts would have to be diffeomorphisms.
    $endgroup$
    – Mathematical Mushroom
    Mar 24 at 13:52










  • $begingroup$
    But what about showing that the Euler Characteristic of the cover space is n times the Euler characteristic of the base?
    $endgroup$
    – Mathematical Mushroom
    Mar 24 at 14:00















$begingroup$
When you say that $U$ is a chart of X you mean that there is some map that maps $U$ homeomorphically onto a neighborhood of X? So you are then identifying this neighborhood with $U$ itself, which allows the make $p^-1(U)$ to make sense, but what is really going on is $p^-1(alpha(U))$ Where $alpha$ parameterizes a neighborhood in X, correct? This question is from my algebraic topology class where we haven't talked about charts at all. But this answer makes sense, thank you.
$endgroup$
– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 22 at 23:39





$begingroup$
When you say that $U$ is a chart of X you mean that there is some map that maps $U$ homeomorphically onto a neighborhood of X? So you are then identifying this neighborhood with $U$ itself, which allows the make $p^-1(U)$ to make sense, but what is really going on is $p^-1(alpha(U))$ Where $alpha$ parameterizes a neighborhood in X, correct? This question is from my algebraic topology class where we haven't talked about charts at all. But this answer makes sense, thank you.
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– Mathematical Mushroom
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A chart means a neighborhood homeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR$.
$endgroup$
– Tsemo Aristide
Mar 23 at 0:00




$begingroup$
A chart means a neighborhood homeomorphic to an open subset of $mathbbR$.
$endgroup$
– Tsemo Aristide
Mar 23 at 0:00












$begingroup$
Wouldn't it depend on what type of manifold you are working with? If you were using an atlas that locally parameterizes a smooth manifold then the charts would have to be diffeomorphisms.
$endgroup$
– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 24 at 13:52




$begingroup$
Wouldn't it depend on what type of manifold you are working with? If you were using an atlas that locally parameterizes a smooth manifold then the charts would have to be diffeomorphisms.
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– Mathematical Mushroom
Mar 24 at 13:52












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But what about showing that the Euler Characteristic of the cover space is n times the Euler characteristic of the base?
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But what about showing that the Euler Characteristic of the cover space is n times the Euler characteristic of the base?
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