Question about elementary row operations with block matrices The Next CEO of Stack OverflowSylvester rank inequality: $operatornamerank A + operatornamerankB leq operatornamerank AB + n$elementary matrices and row operationsOrder of operations of multiple Matrix Elementary Row OperationsElementary Row MatricesFind the determinant by using elementary row operationsProof of elementary row operations for matrices?Performing elementary row operations on matricesAre elementary matrices the matrix representations of corresponding elementary row operations?Writing a matrix as a product of elementary matrices.Elementary operations on matricesElementary Matrix and Row Operations

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Question about elementary row operations with block matrices



The Next CEO of Stack OverflowSylvester rank inequality: $operatornamerank A + operatornamerankB leq operatornamerank AB + n$elementary matrices and row operationsOrder of operations of multiple Matrix Elementary Row OperationsElementary Row MatricesFind the determinant by using elementary row operationsProof of elementary row operations for matrices?Performing elementary row operations on matricesAre elementary matrices the matrix representations of corresponding elementary row operations?Writing a matrix as a product of elementary matrices.Elementary operations on matricesElementary Matrix and Row Operations










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Given two $n times n$ matrices $A$ and $B$, form a new block matrix



$$P := beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A&0endbmatrix$$



Then by using only elementary row operations, show that $P$ can be transformed into



$$P' := beginbmatrixI_n&B\0&ABendbmatrix $$




The solution to this problem is:



$$P = beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A&0endbmatrix sim beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A + AI_n &0 + ABendbmatrix sim beginbmatrixI_n&B\0&ABendbmatrix$$



I don't understand this solution. Why can $A$ be multiplied from the left on the first half of the matrix and then be added to the second half of the matrix to form a sequence of elementary row operations?










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    Given two $n times n$ matrices $A$ and $B$, form a new block matrix



    $$P := beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A&0endbmatrix$$



    Then by using only elementary row operations, show that $P$ can be transformed into



    $$P' := beginbmatrixI_n&B\0&ABendbmatrix $$




    The solution to this problem is:



    $$P = beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A&0endbmatrix sim beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A + AI_n &0 + ABendbmatrix sim beginbmatrixI_n&B\0&ABendbmatrix$$



    I don't understand this solution. Why can $A$ be multiplied from the left on the first half of the matrix and then be added to the second half of the matrix to form a sequence of elementary row operations?










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      $begingroup$


      Given two $n times n$ matrices $A$ and $B$, form a new block matrix



      $$P := beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A&0endbmatrix$$



      Then by using only elementary row operations, show that $P$ can be transformed into



      $$P' := beginbmatrixI_n&B\0&ABendbmatrix $$




      The solution to this problem is:



      $$P = beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A&0endbmatrix sim beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A + AI_n &0 + ABendbmatrix sim beginbmatrixI_n&B\0&ABendbmatrix$$



      I don't understand this solution. Why can $A$ be multiplied from the left on the first half of the matrix and then be added to the second half of the matrix to form a sequence of elementary row operations?










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      Given two $n times n$ matrices $A$ and $B$, form a new block matrix



      $$P := beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A&0endbmatrix$$



      Then by using only elementary row operations, show that $P$ can be transformed into



      $$P' := beginbmatrixI_n&B\0&ABendbmatrix $$




      The solution to this problem is:



      $$P = beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A&0endbmatrix sim beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A + AI_n &0 + ABendbmatrix sim beginbmatrixI_n&B\0&ABendbmatrix$$



      I don't understand this solution. Why can $A$ be multiplied from the left on the first half of the matrix and then be added to the second half of the matrix to form a sequence of elementary row operations?







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          Let
          $$
          beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2endbmatrix = beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A&0endbmatrix
          $$



          Then
          $$
          beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2endbmatrix undersettextRowOpmapsto beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2 + A R_1endbmatrix
          implies
          beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A&0endbmatrix
          undersettextRowOpmapsto
          beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A+AI_n& 0+ABendbmatrix
          =
          beginbmatrixI_n&B\0& ABendbmatrix
          $$



          Does this make it any clear?






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            No. Why is $$beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2endbmatrix undersettextRowOpmapsto beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2 + A R_1endbmatrix$$ a row operation?
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          I guess you're trying to prove Sylvester rank inequality.



          This works just like the elementary row operations. We can do this with block matrices:



          $$
          M = beginpmatrixA&B\C&Dendpmatrix sim beginpmatrixA+K,C&B+K,D\C&Dendpmatrix
          $$



          What we are doing here behind the scenes is multiplying the matrix by an elementary matrix $T$:



          $$
          T = beginpmatrixI&K\0&Iendpmatrix
          $$



          So we get:



          $$
          TM =
          beginpmatrixI&K\0&Iendpmatrix beginpmatrixA&B\C&Dendpmatrix = beginpmatrixA+K,C&B+K,D\C&Dendpmatrix
          $$



          As you can see, $T$ has full rank and therefore invertible, which means it doesn't change rank of the matrix:



          $$operatornamerkTM = operatornamerkM$$






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            $begingroup$

            Let
            $$
            beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2endbmatrix = beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A&0endbmatrix
            $$



            Then
            $$
            beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2endbmatrix undersettextRowOpmapsto beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2 + A R_1endbmatrix
            implies
            beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A&0endbmatrix
            undersettextRowOpmapsto
            beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A+AI_n& 0+ABendbmatrix
            =
            beginbmatrixI_n&B\0& ABendbmatrix
            $$



            Does this make it any clear?






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              No. Why is $$beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2endbmatrix undersettextRowOpmapsto beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2 + A R_1endbmatrix$$ a row operation?
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              Feb 7 at 6:52
















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            $begingroup$

            Let
            $$
            beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2endbmatrix = beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A&0endbmatrix
            $$



            Then
            $$
            beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2endbmatrix undersettextRowOpmapsto beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2 + A R_1endbmatrix
            implies
            beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A&0endbmatrix
            undersettextRowOpmapsto
            beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A+AI_n& 0+ABendbmatrix
            =
            beginbmatrixI_n&B\0& ABendbmatrix
            $$



            Does this make it any clear?






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              No. Why is $$beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2endbmatrix undersettextRowOpmapsto beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2 + A R_1endbmatrix$$ a row operation?
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            Let
            $$
            beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2endbmatrix = beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A&0endbmatrix
            $$



            Then
            $$
            beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2endbmatrix undersettextRowOpmapsto beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2 + A R_1endbmatrix
            implies
            beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A&0endbmatrix
            undersettextRowOpmapsto
            beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A+AI_n& 0+ABendbmatrix
            =
            beginbmatrixI_n&B\0& ABendbmatrix
            $$



            Does this make it any clear?






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            Let
            $$
            beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2endbmatrix = beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A&0endbmatrix
            $$



            Then
            $$
            beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2endbmatrix undersettextRowOpmapsto beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2 + A R_1endbmatrix
            implies
            beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A&0endbmatrix
            undersettextRowOpmapsto
            beginbmatrixI_n&B\-A+AI_n& 0+ABendbmatrix
            =
            beginbmatrixI_n&B\0& ABendbmatrix
            $$



            Does this make it any clear?







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              No. Why is $$beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2endbmatrix undersettextRowOpmapsto beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2 + A R_1endbmatrix$$ a row operation?
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              No. Why is $$beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2endbmatrix undersettextRowOpmapsto beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2 + A R_1endbmatrix$$ a row operation?
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            No. Why is $$beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2endbmatrix undersettextRowOpmapsto beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2 + A R_1endbmatrix$$ a row operation?
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            Feb 7 at 6:52





            $begingroup$
            No. Why is $$beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2endbmatrix undersettextRowOpmapsto beginbmatrixR_1 \ R_2 + A R_1endbmatrix$$ a row operation?
            $endgroup$
            – user642338
            Feb 7 at 6:52












            0












            $begingroup$

            I guess you're trying to prove Sylvester rank inequality.



            This works just like the elementary row operations. We can do this with block matrices:



            $$
            M = beginpmatrixA&B\C&Dendpmatrix sim beginpmatrixA+K,C&B+K,D\C&Dendpmatrix
            $$



            What we are doing here behind the scenes is multiplying the matrix by an elementary matrix $T$:



            $$
            T = beginpmatrixI&K\0&Iendpmatrix
            $$



            So we get:



            $$
            TM =
            beginpmatrixI&K\0&Iendpmatrix beginpmatrixA&B\C&Dendpmatrix = beginpmatrixA+K,C&B+K,D\C&Dendpmatrix
            $$



            As you can see, $T$ has full rank and therefore invertible, which means it doesn't change rank of the matrix:



            $$operatornamerkTM = operatornamerkM$$






            share|cite|improve this answer









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              $begingroup$

              I guess you're trying to prove Sylvester rank inequality.



              This works just like the elementary row operations. We can do this with block matrices:



              $$
              M = beginpmatrixA&B\C&Dendpmatrix sim beginpmatrixA+K,C&B+K,D\C&Dendpmatrix
              $$



              What we are doing here behind the scenes is multiplying the matrix by an elementary matrix $T$:



              $$
              T = beginpmatrixI&K\0&Iendpmatrix
              $$



              So we get:



              $$
              TM =
              beginpmatrixI&K\0&Iendpmatrix beginpmatrixA&B\C&Dendpmatrix = beginpmatrixA+K,C&B+K,D\C&Dendpmatrix
              $$



              As you can see, $T$ has full rank and therefore invertible, which means it doesn't change rank of the matrix:



              $$operatornamerkTM = operatornamerkM$$






              share|cite|improve this answer









              $endgroup$















                0












                0








                0





                $begingroup$

                I guess you're trying to prove Sylvester rank inequality.



                This works just like the elementary row operations. We can do this with block matrices:



                $$
                M = beginpmatrixA&B\C&Dendpmatrix sim beginpmatrixA+K,C&B+K,D\C&Dendpmatrix
                $$



                What we are doing here behind the scenes is multiplying the matrix by an elementary matrix $T$:



                $$
                T = beginpmatrixI&K\0&Iendpmatrix
                $$



                So we get:



                $$
                TM =
                beginpmatrixI&K\0&Iendpmatrix beginpmatrixA&B\C&Dendpmatrix = beginpmatrixA+K,C&B+K,D\C&Dendpmatrix
                $$



                As you can see, $T$ has full rank and therefore invertible, which means it doesn't change rank of the matrix:



                $$operatornamerkTM = operatornamerkM$$






                share|cite|improve this answer









                $endgroup$



                I guess you're trying to prove Sylvester rank inequality.



                This works just like the elementary row operations. We can do this with block matrices:



                $$
                M = beginpmatrixA&B\C&Dendpmatrix sim beginpmatrixA+K,C&B+K,D\C&Dendpmatrix
                $$



                What we are doing here behind the scenes is multiplying the matrix by an elementary matrix $T$:



                $$
                T = beginpmatrixI&K\0&Iendpmatrix
                $$



                So we get:



                $$
                TM =
                beginpmatrixI&K\0&Iendpmatrix beginpmatrixA&B\C&Dendpmatrix = beginpmatrixA+K,C&B+K,D\C&Dendpmatrix
                $$



                As you can see, $T$ has full rank and therefore invertible, which means it doesn't change rank of the matrix:



                $$operatornamerkTM = operatornamerkM$$







                share|cite|improve this answer












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