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Finding set B when A and C is given along with relation .


Set notation: subtracting elements with given cardinality from the powersetPower Set MathematicsIn a transitive relation does x and z have to be the same element?Can this relation be transitive but not symmetric and reflexive?How to find the number of subsets of any given set that contain a particular numberCardinality of the set $[a,b]$ where $0 < a leq b$ and $a,b in mathbbN$.can a set have elements and sets?Naive set theory, empty set as subset of mathematical objectsSubset of a family of setsFind the number of the elements for each set. $emptyset$ , $emptyset$ , $emptyset$, $emptyset, emptyset$













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Set $C$ contains all the elements that can be represented using sum of an element of $A$ and an element of $B$.



In such a case if we have the values of set $A$ and set $C$, how can we find out the set $B$.



For eg :



If set $A=1,2$



and set $C=3,4,5$,



then set $B$ would be $B=2,3$.



I can work this around for small sets, but I fail to understand this for bigger sets, is there a global solution for this ?










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    Please, use "{" to list elements of sets.
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    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
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  • $begingroup$
    @MauroALLEGRANZA no context is correct .
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  • $begingroup$
    @MauroALLEGRANZA : OP is trying to find $B$, not $C$
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$begingroup$


Set $C$ contains all the elements that can be represented using sum of an element of $A$ and an element of $B$.



In such a case if we have the values of set $A$ and set $C$, how can we find out the set $B$.



For eg :



If set $A=1,2$



and set $C=3,4,5$,



then set $B$ would be $B=2,3$.



I can work this around for small sets, but I fail to understand this for bigger sets, is there a global solution for this ?










share|cite|improve this question











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  • $begingroup$
    Please, use "{" to list elements of sets.
    $endgroup$
    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
    Mar 13 at 10:05










  • $begingroup$
    @MauroALLEGRANZA no context is correct .
    $endgroup$
    – Kshitij Dhyani
    Mar 13 at 10:09










  • $begingroup$
    @MauroALLEGRANZA : OP is trying to find $B$, not $C$
    $endgroup$
    – MPW
    Mar 13 at 10:09













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$begingroup$


Set $C$ contains all the elements that can be represented using sum of an element of $A$ and an element of $B$.



In such a case if we have the values of set $A$ and set $C$, how can we find out the set $B$.



For eg :



If set $A=1,2$



and set $C=3,4,5$,



then set $B$ would be $B=2,3$.



I can work this around for small sets, but I fail to understand this for bigger sets, is there a global solution for this ?










share|cite|improve this question











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Set $C$ contains all the elements that can be represented using sum of an element of $A$ and an element of $B$.



In such a case if we have the values of set $A$ and set $C$, how can we find out the set $B$.



For eg :



If set $A=1,2$



and set $C=3,4,5$,



then set $B$ would be $B=2,3$.



I can work this around for small sets, but I fail to understand this for bigger sets, is there a global solution for this ?







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  • $begingroup$
    Please, use "{" to list elements of sets.
    $endgroup$
    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
    Mar 13 at 10:05










  • $begingroup$
    @MauroALLEGRANZA no context is correct .
    $endgroup$
    – Kshitij Dhyani
    Mar 13 at 10:09










  • $begingroup$
    @MauroALLEGRANZA : OP is trying to find $B$, not $C$
    $endgroup$
    – MPW
    Mar 13 at 10:09
















  • $begingroup$
    Please, use "{" to list elements of sets.
    $endgroup$
    – Mauro ALLEGRANZA
    Mar 13 at 10:05










  • $begingroup$
    @MauroALLEGRANZA no context is correct .
    $endgroup$
    – Kshitij Dhyani
    Mar 13 at 10:09










  • $begingroup$
    @MauroALLEGRANZA : OP is trying to find $B$, not $C$
    $endgroup$
    – MPW
    Mar 13 at 10:09















$begingroup$
Please, use "{" to list elements of sets.
$endgroup$
– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
Mar 13 at 10:05




$begingroup$
Please, use "{" to list elements of sets.
$endgroup$
– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
Mar 13 at 10:05












$begingroup$
@MauroALLEGRANZA no context is correct .
$endgroup$
– Kshitij Dhyani
Mar 13 at 10:09




$begingroup$
@MauroALLEGRANZA no context is correct .
$endgroup$
– Kshitij Dhyani
Mar 13 at 10:09












$begingroup$
@MauroALLEGRANZA : OP is trying to find $B$, not $C$
$endgroup$
– MPW
Mar 13 at 10:09




$begingroup$
@MauroALLEGRANZA : OP is trying to find $B$, not $C$
$endgroup$
– MPW
Mar 13 at 10:09










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I'm afraid you might have to go with a brute force solution.



You can easily find $min(B)$ and $max(B)$ by taking $min(B)=min(C)-min(A)$ and $max(B)=max(C)-max(A)$. After that I see no other way but looking at all $min(B)<n<max(B)$ to see whether $A+nsubset C$. If $A+nsubset C$ then $nin B$, if $A+nsubsetneq C$ then $nnotin B$. Note that this gives the biggest possible $B$.



There might be a more elegant solution out there, and there might be much better solutions out there for "nice" sets, until then I would just program a quick for loop.






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    So we have initial sets $A$ and $C$, and we try to find set $B$ such that $A+B=C$, so $A$ is already given. $A+n$ is just shorthand for $A+n$.
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I'm afraid you might have to go with a brute force solution.



You can easily find $min(B)$ and $max(B)$ by taking $min(B)=min(C)-min(A)$ and $max(B)=max(C)-max(A)$. After that I see no other way but looking at all $min(B)<n<max(B)$ to see whether $A+nsubset C$. If $A+nsubset C$ then $nin B$, if $A+nsubsetneq C$ then $nnotin B$. Note that this gives the biggest possible $B$.



There might be a more elegant solution out there, and there might be much better solutions out there for "nice" sets, until then I would just program a quick for loop.






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    what is A here in A+n⊂C
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  • $begingroup$
    So we have initial sets $A$ and $C$, and we try to find set $B$ such that $A+B=C$, so $A$ is already given. $A+n$ is just shorthand for $A+n$.
    $endgroup$
    – Floris Claassens
    Mar 13 at 10:56















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I'm afraid you might have to go with a brute force solution.



You can easily find $min(B)$ and $max(B)$ by taking $min(B)=min(C)-min(A)$ and $max(B)=max(C)-max(A)$. After that I see no other way but looking at all $min(B)<n<max(B)$ to see whether $A+nsubset C$. If $A+nsubset C$ then $nin B$, if $A+nsubsetneq C$ then $nnotin B$. Note that this gives the biggest possible $B$.



There might be a more elegant solution out there, and there might be much better solutions out there for "nice" sets, until then I would just program a quick for loop.






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    what is A here in A+n⊂C
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  • $begingroup$
    So we have initial sets $A$ and $C$, and we try to find set $B$ such that $A+B=C$, so $A$ is already given. $A+n$ is just shorthand for $A+n$.
    $endgroup$
    – Floris Claassens
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I'm afraid you might have to go with a brute force solution.



You can easily find $min(B)$ and $max(B)$ by taking $min(B)=min(C)-min(A)$ and $max(B)=max(C)-max(A)$. After that I see no other way but looking at all $min(B)<n<max(B)$ to see whether $A+nsubset C$. If $A+nsubset C$ then $nin B$, if $A+nsubsetneq C$ then $nnotin B$. Note that this gives the biggest possible $B$.



There might be a more elegant solution out there, and there might be much better solutions out there for "nice" sets, until then I would just program a quick for loop.






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I'm afraid you might have to go with a brute force solution.



You can easily find $min(B)$ and $max(B)$ by taking $min(B)=min(C)-min(A)$ and $max(B)=max(C)-max(A)$. After that I see no other way but looking at all $min(B)<n<max(B)$ to see whether $A+nsubset C$. If $A+nsubset C$ then $nin B$, if $A+nsubsetneq C$ then $nnotin B$. Note that this gives the biggest possible $B$.



There might be a more elegant solution out there, and there might be much better solutions out there for "nice" sets, until then I would just program a quick for loop.







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  • $begingroup$
    what is A here in A+n⊂C
    $endgroup$
    – Kshitij Dhyani
    Mar 13 at 10:36










  • $begingroup$
    So we have initial sets $A$ and $C$, and we try to find set $B$ such that $A+B=C$, so $A$ is already given. $A+n$ is just shorthand for $A+n$.
    $endgroup$
    – Floris Claassens
    Mar 13 at 10:56
















  • $begingroup$
    what is A here in A+n⊂C
    $endgroup$
    – Kshitij Dhyani
    Mar 13 at 10:36










  • $begingroup$
    So we have initial sets $A$ and $C$, and we try to find set $B$ such that $A+B=C$, so $A$ is already given. $A+n$ is just shorthand for $A+n$.
    $endgroup$
    – Floris Claassens
    Mar 13 at 10:56















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$begingroup$
So we have initial sets $A$ and $C$, and we try to find set $B$ such that $A+B=C$, so $A$ is already given. $A+n$ is just shorthand for $A+n$.
$endgroup$
– Floris Claassens
Mar 13 at 10:56




$begingroup$
So we have initial sets $A$ and $C$, and we try to find set $B$ such that $A+B=C$, so $A$ is already given. $A+n$ is just shorthand for $A+n$.
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