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Commutators of tensor product of Pauli matrices


Permutations of elements in a tensor productStructure of Parity Check Matrix of Non-Systematic Tensor Product CodesTensor Multiplication - Why should we use permutations?SO(2) group generator Lie AlgebraTensor product of $C^*$- algebrasNeed definition of symmetric and antisymmetric tensor representations of a Lie algebradirect sum and tensor product of representation of lie algebraDuality and tensor product of the Lie algebraKoszul sign convention and symmetric group action on the graded n-th tensor productNon-standard Generalizations of the Pauli Matrices that retain closedness, identity mapping & tracelessness?













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Given tensor product of rank-2 Pauli matrices $sigma^a$. Each $sigma^a$ is related to the generator of SU(2) Lie algebra.



We know they satisfy



$$[sigma^a, sigma^b ] = 2 i epsilon^abc sigma^c$$



Do you know any equality/identity to simplify:
$$
[sigma^a otimes sigma^c, sigma^b otimes sigma^d] = ?
$$
also
$$
[sigma^a otimes sigma^c otimes sigma^e, sigma^b otimes sigma^d otimes sigma^f] = ?
$$
$$
[sigma^a otimes sigma^c otimes sigma^e otimes sigma^g, sigma^b otimes sigma^d otimes sigma^f otimes sigma^h] = ?
$$
so that the final answers have no commutators?



Commutator is defined by default as
$$
[A,B]:=AB-BA
$$










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  • $begingroup$
    just to be precise, I think your tensor product here also means the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronecker_product
    $endgroup$
    – wonderich
    Feb 16 '18 at 4:07






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    $begingroup$
    There is no reason to expect anything nice for those formulas. The reason is that the tensor product of lie algebras is not a lie algebra in any sensible way.
    $endgroup$
    – Mariano Suárez-Álvarez
    Feb 16 '18 at 4:07















1












$begingroup$


Given tensor product of rank-2 Pauli matrices $sigma^a$. Each $sigma^a$ is related to the generator of SU(2) Lie algebra.



We know they satisfy



$$[sigma^a, sigma^b ] = 2 i epsilon^abc sigma^c$$



Do you know any equality/identity to simplify:
$$
[sigma^a otimes sigma^c, sigma^b otimes sigma^d] = ?
$$
also
$$
[sigma^a otimes sigma^c otimes sigma^e, sigma^b otimes sigma^d otimes sigma^f] = ?
$$
$$
[sigma^a otimes sigma^c otimes sigma^e otimes sigma^g, sigma^b otimes sigma^d otimes sigma^f otimes sigma^h] = ?
$$
so that the final answers have no commutators?



Commutator is defined by default as
$$
[A,B]:=AB-BA
$$










share|cite|improve this question









$endgroup$











  • $begingroup$
    just to be precise, I think your tensor product here also means the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronecker_product
    $endgroup$
    – wonderich
    Feb 16 '18 at 4:07






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    There is no reason to expect anything nice for those formulas. The reason is that the tensor product of lie algebras is not a lie algebra in any sensible way.
    $endgroup$
    – Mariano Suárez-Álvarez
    Feb 16 '18 at 4:07













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$begingroup$


Given tensor product of rank-2 Pauli matrices $sigma^a$. Each $sigma^a$ is related to the generator of SU(2) Lie algebra.



We know they satisfy



$$[sigma^a, sigma^b ] = 2 i epsilon^abc sigma^c$$



Do you know any equality/identity to simplify:
$$
[sigma^a otimes sigma^c, sigma^b otimes sigma^d] = ?
$$
also
$$
[sigma^a otimes sigma^c otimes sigma^e, sigma^b otimes sigma^d otimes sigma^f] = ?
$$
$$
[sigma^a otimes sigma^c otimes sigma^e otimes sigma^g, sigma^b otimes sigma^d otimes sigma^f otimes sigma^h] = ?
$$
so that the final answers have no commutators?



Commutator is defined by default as
$$
[A,B]:=AB-BA
$$










share|cite|improve this question









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Given tensor product of rank-2 Pauli matrices $sigma^a$. Each $sigma^a$ is related to the generator of SU(2) Lie algebra.



We know they satisfy



$$[sigma^a, sigma^b ] = 2 i epsilon^abc sigma^c$$



Do you know any equality/identity to simplify:
$$
[sigma^a otimes sigma^c, sigma^b otimes sigma^d] = ?
$$
also
$$
[sigma^a otimes sigma^c otimes sigma^e, sigma^b otimes sigma^d otimes sigma^f] = ?
$$
$$
[sigma^a otimes sigma^c otimes sigma^e otimes sigma^g, sigma^b otimes sigma^d otimes sigma^f otimes sigma^h] = ?
$$
so that the final answers have no commutators?



Commutator is defined by default as
$$
[A,B]:=AB-BA
$$







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  • $begingroup$
    just to be precise, I think your tensor product here also means the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronecker_product
    $endgroup$
    – wonderich
    Feb 16 '18 at 4:07






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    There is no reason to expect anything nice for those formulas. The reason is that the tensor product of lie algebras is not a lie algebra in any sensible way.
    $endgroup$
    – Mariano Suárez-Álvarez
    Feb 16 '18 at 4:07
















  • $begingroup$
    just to be precise, I think your tensor product here also means the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronecker_product
    $endgroup$
    – wonderich
    Feb 16 '18 at 4:07






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    There is no reason to expect anything nice for those formulas. The reason is that the tensor product of lie algebras is not a lie algebra in any sensible way.
    $endgroup$
    – Mariano Suárez-Álvarez
    Feb 16 '18 at 4:07















$begingroup$
just to be precise, I think your tensor product here also means the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronecker_product
$endgroup$
– wonderich
Feb 16 '18 at 4:07




$begingroup$
just to be precise, I think your tensor product here also means the en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronecker_product
$endgroup$
– wonderich
Feb 16 '18 at 4:07




1




1




$begingroup$
There is no reason to expect anything nice for those formulas. The reason is that the tensor product of lie algebras is not a lie algebra in any sensible way.
$endgroup$
– Mariano Suárez-Álvarez
Feb 16 '18 at 4:07




$begingroup$
There is no reason to expect anything nice for those formulas. The reason is that the tensor product of lie algebras is not a lie algebra in any sensible way.
$endgroup$
– Mariano Suárez-Álvarez
Feb 16 '18 at 4:07










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If you check out Kronecker Product you will see that it has the mixed-product property:



$$
(mathbf A otimes mathbf B )(mathbf C otimes mathbf D )=(mathbf AC )otimes (mathbf BD ).
$$



Using this property and the fact that
$$
sigma^asigma^b = delta_abI+iepsilon_abcsigma^c
$$
you can expand the product $(sigma^a otimes sigma^c)(sigma^b otimes sigma^d)$ as



beginalign
(sigma^a otimes sigma^c)(sigma^b otimes sigma^d)
&= (sigma^asigma^b)otimes(sigma^csigma^d) \ &= (delta_abI+iepsilon_abesigma^e)otimes(delta_cdI+iepsilon_cdfsigma^f) \
&=delta_abdelta_cdI+iepsilon_abedelta_cd(sigma^eotimes I)+iepsilon_cdfdelta_ab(I otimes sigma^f)-epsilon_abeepsilon_cdf(sigma^eotimessigma^f).
endalign



Since the first and last terms in this expression are symmetric when the indices $ab$ and $cd$ are permuted, the first commutator you ask for simplifies to



$$
[sigma^a otimes sigma^c, sigma^b otimes sigma^d] = 2iepsilon_abedelta_cd(sigma^eotimes I)+2iepsilon_cdfdelta_ab(I otimes sigma^f).
$$



Note that the two terms are mutually exclusive since if $delta_cd=1$, then $epsilon_cdf=0$, and likewise for the pair of indices $ab$.






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    $begingroup$

    If you check out Kronecker Product you will see that it has the mixed-product property:



    $$
    (mathbf A otimes mathbf B )(mathbf C otimes mathbf D )=(mathbf AC )otimes (mathbf BD ).
    $$



    Using this property and the fact that
    $$
    sigma^asigma^b = delta_abI+iepsilon_abcsigma^c
    $$
    you can expand the product $(sigma^a otimes sigma^c)(sigma^b otimes sigma^d)$ as



    beginalign
    (sigma^a otimes sigma^c)(sigma^b otimes sigma^d)
    &= (sigma^asigma^b)otimes(sigma^csigma^d) \ &= (delta_abI+iepsilon_abesigma^e)otimes(delta_cdI+iepsilon_cdfsigma^f) \
    &=delta_abdelta_cdI+iepsilon_abedelta_cd(sigma^eotimes I)+iepsilon_cdfdelta_ab(I otimes sigma^f)-epsilon_abeepsilon_cdf(sigma^eotimessigma^f).
    endalign



    Since the first and last terms in this expression are symmetric when the indices $ab$ and $cd$ are permuted, the first commutator you ask for simplifies to



    $$
    [sigma^a otimes sigma^c, sigma^b otimes sigma^d] = 2iepsilon_abedelta_cd(sigma^eotimes I)+2iepsilon_cdfdelta_ab(I otimes sigma^f).
    $$



    Note that the two terms are mutually exclusive since if $delta_cd=1$, then $epsilon_cdf=0$, and likewise for the pair of indices $ab$.






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      $begingroup$

      If you check out Kronecker Product you will see that it has the mixed-product property:



      $$
      (mathbf A otimes mathbf B )(mathbf C otimes mathbf D )=(mathbf AC )otimes (mathbf BD ).
      $$



      Using this property and the fact that
      $$
      sigma^asigma^b = delta_abI+iepsilon_abcsigma^c
      $$
      you can expand the product $(sigma^a otimes sigma^c)(sigma^b otimes sigma^d)$ as



      beginalign
      (sigma^a otimes sigma^c)(sigma^b otimes sigma^d)
      &= (sigma^asigma^b)otimes(sigma^csigma^d) \ &= (delta_abI+iepsilon_abesigma^e)otimes(delta_cdI+iepsilon_cdfsigma^f) \
      &=delta_abdelta_cdI+iepsilon_abedelta_cd(sigma^eotimes I)+iepsilon_cdfdelta_ab(I otimes sigma^f)-epsilon_abeepsilon_cdf(sigma^eotimessigma^f).
      endalign



      Since the first and last terms in this expression are symmetric when the indices $ab$ and $cd$ are permuted, the first commutator you ask for simplifies to



      $$
      [sigma^a otimes sigma^c, sigma^b otimes sigma^d] = 2iepsilon_abedelta_cd(sigma^eotimes I)+2iepsilon_cdfdelta_ab(I otimes sigma^f).
      $$



      Note that the two terms are mutually exclusive since if $delta_cd=1$, then $epsilon_cdf=0$, and likewise for the pair of indices $ab$.






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        $begingroup$

        If you check out Kronecker Product you will see that it has the mixed-product property:



        $$
        (mathbf A otimes mathbf B )(mathbf C otimes mathbf D )=(mathbf AC )otimes (mathbf BD ).
        $$



        Using this property and the fact that
        $$
        sigma^asigma^b = delta_abI+iepsilon_abcsigma^c
        $$
        you can expand the product $(sigma^a otimes sigma^c)(sigma^b otimes sigma^d)$ as



        beginalign
        (sigma^a otimes sigma^c)(sigma^b otimes sigma^d)
        &= (sigma^asigma^b)otimes(sigma^csigma^d) \ &= (delta_abI+iepsilon_abesigma^e)otimes(delta_cdI+iepsilon_cdfsigma^f) \
        &=delta_abdelta_cdI+iepsilon_abedelta_cd(sigma^eotimes I)+iepsilon_cdfdelta_ab(I otimes sigma^f)-epsilon_abeepsilon_cdf(sigma^eotimessigma^f).
        endalign



        Since the first and last terms in this expression are symmetric when the indices $ab$ and $cd$ are permuted, the first commutator you ask for simplifies to



        $$
        [sigma^a otimes sigma^c, sigma^b otimes sigma^d] = 2iepsilon_abedelta_cd(sigma^eotimes I)+2iepsilon_cdfdelta_ab(I otimes sigma^f).
        $$



        Note that the two terms are mutually exclusive since if $delta_cd=1$, then $epsilon_cdf=0$, and likewise for the pair of indices $ab$.






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        If you check out Kronecker Product you will see that it has the mixed-product property:



        $$
        (mathbf A otimes mathbf B )(mathbf C otimes mathbf D )=(mathbf AC )otimes (mathbf BD ).
        $$



        Using this property and the fact that
        $$
        sigma^asigma^b = delta_abI+iepsilon_abcsigma^c
        $$
        you can expand the product $(sigma^a otimes sigma^c)(sigma^b otimes sigma^d)$ as



        beginalign
        (sigma^a otimes sigma^c)(sigma^b otimes sigma^d)
        &= (sigma^asigma^b)otimes(sigma^csigma^d) \ &= (delta_abI+iepsilon_abesigma^e)otimes(delta_cdI+iepsilon_cdfsigma^f) \
        &=delta_abdelta_cdI+iepsilon_abedelta_cd(sigma^eotimes I)+iepsilon_cdfdelta_ab(I otimes sigma^f)-epsilon_abeepsilon_cdf(sigma^eotimessigma^f).
        endalign



        Since the first and last terms in this expression are symmetric when the indices $ab$ and $cd$ are permuted, the first commutator you ask for simplifies to



        $$
        [sigma^a otimes sigma^c, sigma^b otimes sigma^d] = 2iepsilon_abedelta_cd(sigma^eotimes I)+2iepsilon_cdfdelta_ab(I otimes sigma^f).
        $$



        Note that the two terms are mutually exclusive since if $delta_cd=1$, then $epsilon_cdf=0$, and likewise for the pair of indices $ab$.







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