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Transcendence degree of quotient field of polynomial ring over a field


Can a subquotient field of a field have a higher transcendence degree?Transcendence degree of a field extensionSources about transcendence degreeQuotient of polynomial ring in two variables is a PIDTranscendence Degree of a field extension over $mathbb C$Isomorphic quotient rings of polynomial rings over fieldTwo field extensions of transcendence degree 1Number of roots of a polynomial over a commutative ringQuestion regarding transcendence degreedetermining if quotient ring of polynomials over a finite field is a field or not













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Let $k$ be a field and $A$ the polynomial ring in $n$ variables over $k$. How do you determine the transcendence degree of the quotient field $K(A) $ of $A$ over $k$ ? Thanks.










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    Usually by finding a transcendence basis, which should not be very hard in this case.
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    The transcendence degree of this extension is by definition the cardinality of a transcendence basis of $K(A)/k$. So your task is to find such a basis. Note that this is not the same as a vector space basis.
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    I don't understand what you mean by ideal in this context. $K(A)$ is generated as a field over $k$ by the indeterminates $x_1,dots,x_n$ of the polynomial ring $A=k[x_1,dots,x_n]$, and these are algebraically independent by definition, hence form a transcendence basis of $K(A)$ over $k$.
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    Note that in order to show that these elements indeed generate $K(A)$ as a field, it suffices to show that they generate the polynomial ring $A$ as an algebra over $k$ (this follows from the universal property of the field of fractions).
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    Mar 12 at 15:27






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    Transcendence degree is always understood with respect to a field extension, you should have a look at the definition again (see my previous comment).
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    Mar 12 at 17:04















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Let $k$ be a field and $A$ the polynomial ring in $n$ variables over $k$. How do you determine the transcendence degree of the quotient field $K(A) $ of $A$ over $k$ ? Thanks.










share|cite|improve this question









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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Usually by finding a transcendence basis, which should not be very hard in this case.
    $endgroup$
    – asdq
    Mar 12 at 11:08






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    The transcendence degree of this extension is by definition the cardinality of a transcendence basis of $K(A)/k$. So your task is to find such a basis. Note that this is not the same as a vector space basis.
    $endgroup$
    – asdq
    Mar 12 at 12:45






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I don't understand what you mean by ideal in this context. $K(A)$ is generated as a field over $k$ by the indeterminates $x_1,dots,x_n$ of the polynomial ring $A=k[x_1,dots,x_n]$, and these are algebraically independent by definition, hence form a transcendence basis of $K(A)$ over $k$.
    $endgroup$
    – asdq
    Mar 12 at 15:24






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Note that in order to show that these elements indeed generate $K(A)$ as a field, it suffices to show that they generate the polynomial ring $A$ as an algebra over $k$ (this follows from the universal property of the field of fractions).
    $endgroup$
    – asdq
    Mar 12 at 15:27






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Transcendence degree is always understood with respect to a field extension, you should have a look at the definition again (see my previous comment).
    $endgroup$
    – asdq
    Mar 12 at 17:04













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Let $k$ be a field and $A$ the polynomial ring in $n$ variables over $k$. How do you determine the transcendence degree of the quotient field $K(A) $ of $A$ over $k$ ? Thanks.










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Let $k$ be a field and $A$ the polynomial ring in $n$ variables over $k$. How do you determine the transcendence degree of the quotient field $K(A) $ of $A$ over $k$ ? Thanks.







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    Usually by finding a transcendence basis, which should not be very hard in this case.
    $endgroup$
    – asdq
    Mar 12 at 11:08






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    The transcendence degree of this extension is by definition the cardinality of a transcendence basis of $K(A)/k$. So your task is to find such a basis. Note that this is not the same as a vector space basis.
    $endgroup$
    – asdq
    Mar 12 at 12:45






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I don't understand what you mean by ideal in this context. $K(A)$ is generated as a field over $k$ by the indeterminates $x_1,dots,x_n$ of the polynomial ring $A=k[x_1,dots,x_n]$, and these are algebraically independent by definition, hence form a transcendence basis of $K(A)$ over $k$.
    $endgroup$
    – asdq
    Mar 12 at 15:24






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Note that in order to show that these elements indeed generate $K(A)$ as a field, it suffices to show that they generate the polynomial ring $A$ as an algebra over $k$ (this follows from the universal property of the field of fractions).
    $endgroup$
    – asdq
    Mar 12 at 15:27






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Transcendence degree is always understood with respect to a field extension, you should have a look at the definition again (see my previous comment).
    $endgroup$
    – asdq
    Mar 12 at 17:04












  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Usually by finding a transcendence basis, which should not be very hard in this case.
    $endgroup$
    – asdq
    Mar 12 at 11:08






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    The transcendence degree of this extension is by definition the cardinality of a transcendence basis of $K(A)/k$. So your task is to find such a basis. Note that this is not the same as a vector space basis.
    $endgroup$
    – asdq
    Mar 12 at 12:45






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I don't understand what you mean by ideal in this context. $K(A)$ is generated as a field over $k$ by the indeterminates $x_1,dots,x_n$ of the polynomial ring $A=k[x_1,dots,x_n]$, and these are algebraically independent by definition, hence form a transcendence basis of $K(A)$ over $k$.
    $endgroup$
    – asdq
    Mar 12 at 15:24






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Note that in order to show that these elements indeed generate $K(A)$ as a field, it suffices to show that they generate the polynomial ring $A$ as an algebra over $k$ (this follows from the universal property of the field of fractions).
    $endgroup$
    – asdq
    Mar 12 at 15:27






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Transcendence degree is always understood with respect to a field extension, you should have a look at the definition again (see my previous comment).
    $endgroup$
    – asdq
    Mar 12 at 17:04







1




1




$begingroup$
Usually by finding a transcendence basis, which should not be very hard in this case.
$endgroup$
– asdq
Mar 12 at 11:08




$begingroup$
Usually by finding a transcendence basis, which should not be very hard in this case.
$endgroup$
– asdq
Mar 12 at 11:08




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3




$begingroup$
The transcendence degree of this extension is by definition the cardinality of a transcendence basis of $K(A)/k$. So your task is to find such a basis. Note that this is not the same as a vector space basis.
$endgroup$
– asdq
Mar 12 at 12:45




$begingroup$
The transcendence degree of this extension is by definition the cardinality of a transcendence basis of $K(A)/k$. So your task is to find such a basis. Note that this is not the same as a vector space basis.
$endgroup$
– asdq
Mar 12 at 12:45




1




1




$begingroup$
I don't understand what you mean by ideal in this context. $K(A)$ is generated as a field over $k$ by the indeterminates $x_1,dots,x_n$ of the polynomial ring $A=k[x_1,dots,x_n]$, and these are algebraically independent by definition, hence form a transcendence basis of $K(A)$ over $k$.
$endgroup$
– asdq
Mar 12 at 15:24




$begingroup$
I don't understand what you mean by ideal in this context. $K(A)$ is generated as a field over $k$ by the indeterminates $x_1,dots,x_n$ of the polynomial ring $A=k[x_1,dots,x_n]$, and these are algebraically independent by definition, hence form a transcendence basis of $K(A)$ over $k$.
$endgroup$
– asdq
Mar 12 at 15:24




1




1




$begingroup$
Note that in order to show that these elements indeed generate $K(A)$ as a field, it suffices to show that they generate the polynomial ring $A$ as an algebra over $k$ (this follows from the universal property of the field of fractions).
$endgroup$
– asdq
Mar 12 at 15:27




$begingroup$
Note that in order to show that these elements indeed generate $K(A)$ as a field, it suffices to show that they generate the polynomial ring $A$ as an algebra over $k$ (this follows from the universal property of the field of fractions).
$endgroup$
– asdq
Mar 12 at 15:27




1




1




$begingroup$
Transcendence degree is always understood with respect to a field extension, you should have a look at the definition again (see my previous comment).
$endgroup$
– asdq
Mar 12 at 17:04




$begingroup$
Transcendence degree is always understood with respect to a field extension, you should have a look at the definition again (see my previous comment).
$endgroup$
– asdq
Mar 12 at 17:04










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